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    Obinna reacted to jordan in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Steven Vitoria signed at Lechia Gdansk 
     
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    Obinna reacted to jpg75 in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    This thread yo-yo's between the rails and off them more than Deportivo does.
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    Obinna got a reaction from Ivanovski94 in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Just so you're clear, It was actually Grizzly who stated Deportivo was a yo-yo club, not me.
    I was simply restating what he actually said to you, because you clearly ignored the vast majority of it. Ironically, you accused him of ignoring your detailed post, funny that.
    By the way, Deportivo has spent 45 seasons in the top flight and 39 in the second division. That is not to say they aren't a great club with a lot of history and all but let me ask, was Grizzly wrong to call them a yo-yo club based on the facts? Before you answer, emotionally detach yourself so that you can answer with logic. In that way, your feelings won't get hurt again and we can enjoy some reasonable dialog. Everybody wins.
    As for Sam, glad that he's still under contract with a La Liga club.
    Edit: Yo-yo doesn't necessarily mean they aren't held in high esteem. It just means they have bounced around. It seems like the only person who is attaching a negative connotation to the word "yo-yo" is you. 
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    Obinna reacted to shermanator in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Looks like Moses Danto from WSA Winnipeg is trialing with Sporting Kansas City:
     
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    Obinna reacted to shamrock in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Of course Depor is a huge club, just like Stuttgart so I've argued once. However I think Besiktas is the bigger club of the two. 
    But the original question was about the level. And the competition Deportivo faces is clearly higher-level than Besiktas. You can talk Champions League all you want, fact is the top half of Primera Division IS Champions League level and possible the league as a whole. 
    Or to put it in Wiki-terms:
    Spanish CL-Victories: 16 (11 runners up)
    Turkish CL Victories: 0 (0 runners up)
    13 Spanish teams have participated in the modern Champions League, against 5 Turkish clubs. Heck Deportivo participated 5 times since 2000, Besiktas 6 since '97 so that is not even that far apart, whereas it is way harder for a Spanish club to qualify than one of the traditional top-three Istanbul-clubs. 
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    Obinna reacted to Grizzly in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Do you even read what people write in their responses or is it all just an illusion from the alternate universe you appear to live in?
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    Obinna got a reaction from Ivanovski94 in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Actually no, Grizzly also pointed out that Deportivo was (and currently still is) a yo yo club, outside of a golden decade. You never even acknowledged that in your response. 
    This was neither said nor implied by Grizzly. He never mentioned West Ham or Burnley once in his post.
    I think you are downplaying the achievements of Mario Gomez this year. 27 goals in the Turkish league was so impressive that it saw him get recalled into the German national team. When he was a 10 - 12 goal striker with Fiorentina in Serie A, he was overlooked for the national team.
    By the way, his Europa League scoring rate at Fiorentina was 3 goals in 14 games, while at Besiktas it was 2 goals in 5 games. So he has a better strike rate at Besiktas in the same competition, which is counter evidence to your suggestion that he only scored so much because Turkey is much weaker than the top leagues.
    So, did Mario Gomez actually improve in Turkey ? Or, did Germany recall him because he's in goal scoring form? Either way, one thing is clear, playing at Besiktas has given him more value to the German team national team and perhaps that's evidence that Besiktas (right now) is a better level than you care to admit? Playing at better levels makes you more valuable to your national team and often wins you a call up, we all know this.
    I don't think Atiba and his lack of Urgency is in anyway a result of playing in Turkey. That is just a flaw in his personal game. I understand what you're saying, but can you provide an example using at least 1 other player who's suffered from this as a result of playing in Turkey? Otherwise, you are connecting dots that are not there...
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    Obinna got a reaction from Greatest Cockney Rip Off in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Actually no, Grizzly also pointed out that Deportivo was (and currently still is) a yo yo club, outside of a golden decade. You never even acknowledged that in your response. 
    This was neither said nor implied by Grizzly. He never mentioned West Ham or Burnley once in his post.
    I think you are downplaying the achievements of Mario Gomez this year. 27 goals in the Turkish league was so impressive that it saw him get recalled into the German national team. When he was a 10 - 12 goal striker with Fiorentina in Serie A, he was overlooked for the national team.
    By the way, his Europa League scoring rate at Fiorentina was 3 goals in 14 games, while at Besiktas it was 2 goals in 5 games. So he has a better strike rate at Besiktas in the same competition, which is counter evidence to your suggestion that he only scored so much because Turkey is much weaker than the top leagues.
    So, did Mario Gomez actually improve in Turkey ? Or, did Germany recall him because he's in goal scoring form? Either way, one thing is clear, playing at Besiktas has given him more value to the German team national team and perhaps that's evidence that Besiktas (right now) is a better level than you care to admit? Playing at better levels makes you more valuable to your national team and often wins you a call up, we all know this.
    I don't think Atiba and his lack of Urgency is in anyway a result of playing in Turkey. That is just a flaw in his personal game. I understand what you're saying, but can you provide an example using at least 1 other player who's suffered from this as a result of playing in Turkey? Otherwise, you are connecting dots that are not there...
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    Obinna got a reaction from Grizzly in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Actually no, Grizzly also pointed out that Deportivo was (and currently still is) a yo yo club, outside of a golden decade. You never even acknowledged that in your response. 
    This was neither said nor implied by Grizzly. He never mentioned West Ham or Burnley once in his post.
    I think you are downplaying the achievements of Mario Gomez this year. 27 goals in the Turkish league was so impressive that it saw him get recalled into the German national team. When he was a 10 - 12 goal striker with Fiorentina in Serie A, he was overlooked for the national team.
    By the way, his Europa League scoring rate at Fiorentina was 3 goals in 14 games, while at Besiktas it was 2 goals in 5 games. So he has a better strike rate at Besiktas in the same competition, which is counter evidence to your suggestion that he only scored so much because Turkey is much weaker than the top leagues.
    So, did Mario Gomez actually improve in Turkey ? Or, did Germany recall him because he's in goal scoring form? Either way, one thing is clear, playing at Besiktas has given him more value to the German team national team and perhaps that's evidence that Besiktas (right now) is a better level than you care to admit? Playing at better levels makes you more valuable to your national team and often wins you a call up, we all know this.
    I don't think Atiba and his lack of Urgency is in anyway a result of playing in Turkey. That is just a flaw in his personal game. I understand what you're saying, but can you provide an example using at least 1 other player who's suffered from this as a result of playing in Turkey? Otherwise, you are connecting dots that are not there...
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    Obinna reacted to Grizzly in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    I have a memory and my memory tells me that Deportivo had an exceptionally strong period in its history in the early 90s to early 2000's both in the league and European play but previous to that and since then has been mostly a yo yo club between the first and second division and usually a mid to lower table team when it is in La Liga. Not that that is bad or that playing for them would not be a great achievement for Piette but if we are going to compare them, Besiktas has consistently been one of the top Turkish league teams while Deportivo has as often as not been in the 2nd division. But yes if folks like you have a memory that only remembers 1992-2004 Deportivo they were indeed a stronger team during most of that period. In general though Besiktas has been and is currently the stronger team and are the reigning Turkish Champions while Deportivo was only 4 points away from getting relegated this season. One would think someone who is such a big soccer fan and lives in Spain would have some memory of Spanish soccer history.
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    Obinna reacted to Unnamed Trialist in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Just to add, obviously Arfield will be our highest level player in this regard.
    As a Depor B player Sam is obviously getting paid more than he would at any normal Spanish 4th tier club. But I doubt he is making much more than the MLS minimum. I really don't know but pretty sure. 
    The advantage for Sam is that if you leave this club you have the pedigree, so it would be reasonable for him to make a move, say to a club in Spanish 2nd division, the only reasonable minimum move in Spain. I think Sam cannot go from here to a third tier anywhere, unless it is well paying like League One. 
    If we qualify for the Hex and he gets minutes, that takes him a notch up. 
    With regards to Deportivo, this is a club that has gone further in Europe than any Turkish team, ever, and has some glorious memories, including an incredible quarter final series vs. Milan (4-1 away, 4-0 home). But from over 10 years ago. They were a major importer of Brazilian talent to Europe for a while, like Bebeto and Rivaldo and Ze Roberto, they had top quality European players as well (Dutch striker MaKaay). But their economy went bad and they have suffered for a decade in the new economic model of football. 
    They have 3-4 defensive mids, all Spanish, one is older but good, Bergantiños, have also sent a kid like Sam up who plays a similar position, Pinchi or something like that. So there is an outside chance of him seeing first team, like early rounds of the Cup. But his job is to get Depor B into a higher division, and if they do that, they'll get a reward the following year, methinks.
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    Obinna got a reaction from Keegan in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Depor is a higher level than Besiktas?
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    Obinna reacted to xcalibre in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Pedro Pacheco got a nice mention in this article on football in the Azores. Santa Clara saved themselves from relegation to Portugal's third tier this year:


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    Obinna reacted to jpg75 in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    A source tells me that Baggio Zidane Maradona is playing for Ethnic SC in the Toronto Immigrant Soccer League 2nd Division.
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    Obinna got a reaction from Addona in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    I hope that man gets a move to be honest. His club is getting relegated yet he's scored 10 goals this season. Probably not enough for a Championship side to take a chance, but surely a stronger league one club would be interested, no?
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    Obinna reacted to Addona in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    It's definitely Ricketts.
     
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    Obinna reacted to Oranje in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    It wasn't a shot at you, the work you do keeping it updated is greatly appreciated. With Dub basically creating a thread for every up-and-comer and Grizz being on the board before I was born I figured the discussion would have taken place elsewhere. 
    I remember when I first joined the board whenever something was posted in the MOACAA thread I got pumped because it meant shit was happening, now more often that not it turns out to be a dick swinging contest about who knows more about a league/country/politics.
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    Obinna reacted to Fussball_eh in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    A Spanish Second Divison club has signed Iain Hume: 
     
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    Obinna reacted to downtownordinary in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Another Canadian in Florida.  Zach Ellis-Hayden (1992) has signed with Orlando City B.
    He's a defender who played with K-W United in the PDL last season and at Cleveland State University.
    http://www.orlandocitysc.com/post/2016/02/04/orlando-city-b-acquires-defender-zach-ellis-hayden-and-goalkeeper-jake-fenlason
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    Obinna reacted to Fussball_eh in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    So Ottawa boy Kris Twardek has been called up by U19 of Czech Republic again. According to "Toje" he didn't even speak the language when he was first called for U17. Just want to point out that we are monitoring his progress closely. As soon as he plays for the senior team, he goes off the list.
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    Obinna reacted to Fussball_eh in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Thanks. Changed clubs on tracking sheet. As soon as one of our Singapore-Canadians play for Singapore, we are taking them off!
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    Obinna reacted to Lord Bob in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    CAP-TIE
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    Obinna reacted to IceCreamMan in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Kyle Porter to the Fury.
     
     
     
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    Obinna reacted to downtownordinary in NEW Mother of all Canucks Abroad (and domestic)   
    Michael Cox (Formerly FC Edmonton) has signed with Orlando City B
    http://www.orlandocitysc.com/post/2016/01/13/orlando-city-b-deepens-squad-seven-acquisitions
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