rob.notenboom

Flight booked. Confirming my attendance. Might have to go straight from the post game party to the airport. Have an early morning flight to Victoria!

I don’t think single game tickets are available yet so I think he is only creating a list at this moment. 
There is also a GO bus from Union to Hamilton that I used in October and was inexpensive and simple ... took an hour I think. 

I don’t think single game tickets are available yet so I think he is only creating a list at this moment. 
There is also a GO bus from Union to Hamilton that I used in October and was inexpensive and simple ... took an hour I think. 

My plans are in flux. So I’ll have to see. I’ll definitely make a game in Winnipeg at least once this year though. 

I don’t have a Valour shirt. But I do have a Valour scarf. 🤷‍♂️

🤣🤣 Just joking around. 

This thread yo-yo's between the rails and off them more than Deportivo does.

Good grief. I'm laughing but I'm also cringing. 

Good grief. I'm laughing but I'm also cringing. 

I can tell you're not on Twitter much when you're retweeting my Halifax King of Donair pic from days ago

Ben's not on Twitter very much. Everyone has their preferred media platform(s). Don't be so bossy you humourless German!!

New York has exercised their option option for Karl Ouimette for 2016. Congratulations Karl!
http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/post/2015/12/02/new-york-red-bulls-announce-roster-options-2016-season 

You mean something like this:
 

Jon, I must say I really like your new list and the format. Thanks for all the hard work. If you're ever at Gracies for a game please introduce your self and I'll buy you a beer.

How was the original decision on the format for the MOACA made? Was it simply the best format that could be found at the time or were there other reasons given for it to be in that format? I'm afraid my tenure around here doesn't extend back long enough to know how it all came about. If an external link is the most efficient way for Jon to maintain the list (obviously a labour intensive task as several others of you understand) then that also needs to be considered. As long as the integrity of the data is maintained and Jon makes a commitment that this data will still be part of this site if something changes, then maybe his outlined approach will have to do.
Additionally I think it's a bit unfortunate that a guy who has volunteered to assume this task is faced with what is essentially an ultimatum within the first 24 hours.  

I try not to be a dick for any reason, sometimes unsuccessfully. 
 
Thing is, I get your point. It's important to maintain the integrity of items of historical significance on this forum. It does speak to who we are and the important work that people have put into this for (what will soon be) two decades. 
 
However, we've got a guy in Jon who seems to have quite a passion for this kind of thing, especially considering he was following Canucks in Germany before he was even on this board. Having him put his energy towards it is a very positive thing. That doesn't mean that he should necessarily do whatever he wants he wants with it and that consulting the membership (or however this should be phrased) is always a good idea before moving forward with anything. So perhaps in his eagerness he got a little ahead of the process. And in the end I suspect Jamie's database idea will end up being the format anyway and that is a different point reached than anyone was suggesting at the start.
 
I feel compelled to add though (and jpg this is not aimed at you in particular, so please don't take offence) that the dialogue around Canadian soccer over the last week or two has been a complete gong show. I've asked several people if there's a full moon or something. It seems that we can't go for more than a couple of minutes without being dicks to one another. Some of the dialogue in this thread has been quite tame in comparison to some of the other stuff on Twitter, fb, other threads in the forum, etc, etc.
 
I realize I have said similar statements before so likely sound like a broken record. But if The Voyageurs are going to grow we are going to have to get a lot better at getting along with one another and treating each other and each other's opinions with respect. If we instead take any personal slight or insult (perceived or intended) as an excuse to hit back harder the gong show will continue, and this will cease to be enjoyable for anyone. Additionally if we are the one delivering the original insult, that's not good either.

Thanks Vince for the productive comment, glad you added to the discussion.
Additionally, I'd been thinking of asking this for a while, and yeah I made sure if I was ever going to choose to step back from it that it was between transfer windows when there would, as socceronly said, be a lot less urgency to make any decisions.  I felt pretty lucky that fussball stepped up so quickly, actually.
From my perspective the time frame on this is going really well, hasn't even been 24 hours yet and people are already stepping up.  If there's any way at all I can help feel free to include me

rob.notenboom clearly there is room for compromise, I am sure there is simply a misunderstanding. But there is no ultimatum at all. A very important part of the site has  been altered without habitual and expected consultation and that should not happen, ever. We let a lot of things slip, incorrectly, because we do not have a legal foundation, so all we have is "common law", accumulated practice as applied in the day to day. And that is what has kept the board alive and new people coming to it.
Asking for that to not be changed has nothing to do with ultimatums.
Another thing is we can be convinced that managing a complicated list like this would be more efficient and easier to read in another format. But propose, explain, test, wait for feedback--then make the change. And even more so when it is a very no rush thread like this one, perhaps the least "urgent" on the site.

I prefer having the list on our forum and on the first page of the thread but I don't mind it on the linked google spreadsheet either. Unless someone else is willing to put in the time and do the work to run the list we really have to accept the preferences of the guy who is willing to do it and be thankful for his efforts as well.

Ok, hoooold on...  I have been eyeing that thing for a long time.
It begs to be coming out of a database.
Now with the incorporation of the Vs as a non profit, CSN may get rolled into that though it's not clear yet.
If CSN uses Drupal, I can make something really really nice to do this.
The DB/CMS side of things on this system is pretty good, but is rather quirky.  Let me have a closer look.  It would be best to keep it all here.   I'll take a look at this early next week. I wasn't planning on doing fancier things until the 4.1 version of this software is released. (upgrading in middle of November)  I think something that is both easier to use, and gives us a lot of rich content would be the best thing.
 
 
 

I think if Socceronly can accomplish what he hopes with the content in a database then both parties can get what they want. A format that can be maintained by multiple people and can store more data and also have the first page of this topic show the list.

How was the original decision on the format for the MOACA made? Was it simply the best format that could be found at the time or were there other reasons given for it to be in that format? I'm afraid my tenure around here doesn't extend back long enough to know how it all came about. If an external link is the most efficient way for Jon to maintain the list (obviously a labour intensive task as several others of you understand) then that also needs to be considered. As long as the integrity of the data is maintained and Jon makes a commitment that this data will still be part of this site if something changes, then maybe his outlined approach will have to do.
Additionally I think it's a bit unfortunate that a guy who has volunteered to assume this task is faced with what is essentially an ultimatum within the first 24 hours.