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13 hours ago, Keegan said:

How so?  Besiktas is in the best club competition with the UCL and features internationals from top countries and while Depor playing Atletico, Real and Barca 6 times is impressive I think the fact you train with a better team week in and out outweighs that.  I'm sure many and especially UT will disagree but Besiktas is a bigger club than Deportivo.  

Besiktas is a bigger club, and so is Hamburg, and Newcastle. I guess folks don't have memory, this is a team that has been in Champions and gone further than any Turkish side ever. Deportivo is a stronger more competitive club in the best league in the world. To break into the first team would be huge for Sam.

8 hours ago, shermanator said:

At the risk of derailing the thread, I hope Piette either gets a first team deal at Deportivo or moves up the pyramid. 

I honestly don't think Sam is anywhere near getting a first team contract for Depor, I'd be very surprised if he did. After all, if he did, he would automatically become the highest level player for Canada in terms of club. And we all know that would not be realistic.

EDIT: Sorry, rectifying, Sam is staying at Deportivo B. That is good news. They are keeping a core of 15 players, bringing up 6 u-19s from their academy, they feel it is a strong side to try for the promotion next year again. And all those guys that much more experienced if the first team needs them.

http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/torremarathon/cantera/2016/06/16/depor-perfila-nuevo-fabril/00031466092555073611292.htm

3 hours ago, Toje said:

Like the PDL, it is a 4th tier league mostly for university players during their off-season.  I believe they have around 90 teams this year.  At the very least, it also gives people a chance to watch a local team in areas often ignored.  I think it is also quite a bit cheaper to put a club into the NPSL rather than the PDL.

Adriano is playing with Miami United.

Thnks. So that is a pretty major challenge to PDL, how did that come about? If you don't mind explaining. I mean, 90 teams is a lot.

Adriano, that is weird, really. Is he like trying to get some sort of US residency status? I mean, I can't figure that out, ten match season.

Someone give us an overview of NPSL, I really haven't a clue. Though I did hear that Adriano the former Brazil striker has signed with a team, interesting choice.

On 6/4/2016 at 5:03 AM, youllneverwalkalone said:

Good luck to him. I remember shaking his hand during the 2008 championship pitch invasion at Swangard when he was only 17. 

Wow, you were actually able to get a 17 year old to shake hands? Amazing!!

Can I leave my kid with you for a few days this summer?

On 21/3/2016 at 10:26 PM, welltoldtales said:

Hey @Artoo where would KW United and FC London fit in here, they won their North American Championships in the USL PDL.

And the T-Bay Chill also won a few years back  as well, in 2008. PDL is NA fourth tier.

22 minutes ago, Fussball_eh said:

I should have explained the process better and I never meant to step on any people's toes. Thanks for your feedback.

Now that its functional, we can worry about appearance. My problem is, I suck at formatting things and have zero feeling for aesthetics. How can we make it more appealing in the next step?

I suck at appearance too, but I am very good at saying when appearance sucks!! People who know what I do professionally will know what I mean.

As a professional, then, here is my two bits: the best way of making something look really good is asking someone really good at design to design it.

Seriously, I don't think the look matters, it is fine as there is a lot of information there and it is best for it to be easy to consult,  visible on a single screen and not overly complex.

7 hours ago, Fussball_eh said:

It's been a little over 160 days, since about a dozen hard-working volunteers & myself, have made the change from just a simple text list on the first page of the thread, to an ever changing work in progress, accessed by about a dozen people 24/7, to constantly reflect our player movements world wide.

Location here: http://www.thevoyageurs.org/mother-of-all-canadians-abroad-list/ . (Please Note the many Tabs below).

You may not now this, but we have an unbranded URL you can embed or link on your own websites. All I ask in return, is that you please give credit to @Canucks_Abroad , if you decide to use it:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mfyBdTWcz7Jk9i7IFim-6XLLLAuPPm8TGLqZNNKkfaQ/pubhtml# .

There was a big amount of resistance to this change here on the forum. I'd appreciate some feedback on how people are liking it now that the process has been in action for a good junk of time? Constructive criticism only please.

Also, it is the time of the year, where we should all check our various regions of expertise and see if anything still needs to be updated. I'd appreciate your collective help in identifying mistakes. Just post it here and we will update.

If you want to be part of the independent Canucks Abroad team, ping me via DM and we may be able to facilitate that, depending on the amount of time you can commit to this creative social media experiment.

Cheers,

Jon Eden
Founder of the current Canucks Abroad

 

I think that the real question was primarily one of trying to come to consensus and explain things properly. It was also a question of appreciating that the Voyageurs effort in Canucks Abroad has been going on since last century and could not be altered without open discussion.

I very much appreciate how you responded to those concerns, excellently and patiently. Since then the tone of the thread has been great, and the expanded content appreciated. The format is also acceptable, very functional, not particularly attractive in presentation, but totally useful. Good work.

Stabaek needs a few days to work out what they want to do with Derek Cornelius, sent him back to Luebeck. Seems they quite liked him, but need more time. 

http://www.budstikka.no/stabak/fotball/sport/derek-loste-ikke-midtbane-saken-for-stabak/s/5-55-274159

19 minutes ago, Grizzly said:

Cornelius has been offered a contract by Terek but Lubeck and Terek  are still negotiating the transfer fee and need to come to an agreement by Feb. 26. Cue Shamrock to tell us what a great mistake Cornelius is making.

http://luebeck.sportbuzzer.de/regionalliga-nord/artikel/noch-vfber-derek-cornelius-grosny-vertrag-ist-unterschriftsreif/54698/222

There was this guy in a pub who was half-Terek fan and half-Lubeck fan. He wanted a drink but couldn't bring himself to buy one.

12 hours ago, Toje said:

Apparently, Andrew Lebre has moved from Casa Pia U19 (Portugal) to Ourense U19 (Spain).

http://www.footballzz.com/player.php?id=428719&epoca_id=0

I wasn't able to find any other further confirmation at the moment.

Ourense is a team with problems to make it into and stay in 2nd division, they seem more comfortable in 2B (third). Problem is, they were dropped a division for financial problems and disappeared 2 years ago, they now have a lower division 1st team, 5th tier I think. In fact, as I look at this, there are new splinters to refound the club, and I am not sure which one he might be with now.

If it is CD Oursense their Juvenil (u-19) A team is dead last in their top division of u-19 Spain, Honor, likely to do down to Nacional (which is still an alright level).  So in fact they are better than the senior men but slipping as the club suffers through this period of being remade.

He is represented by Rocha, RISM, from Toronto.

3 hours ago, Fussball_eh said:

A Spanish Second Divison club has signed Iain Hume: 

 

Well that is a surprise, did not expecct that. And could not tell you how he came to make that deal, only that their best striker, a Brazilian, Yuri, was just sold to China and they must have had a free roster spot, combined with Humey being out of contract. A couple points above relegation.

This is the team that Nsaliwa was signed to help for a few games before they went down to 2B, then came back up almost immediately to 2A. I guess Tam thought 2B was below him. They have a new coach, Nistal, who may be provisional or may stay, depending upon results.  Before they had Barragán who played with De Guzman at Deportivo, I think.

I've never been to the stadium, Toralín, but walked past it and looked in on the Camino de Santiago, as well as having been through the whole area. A pretty little town, isolated in a lush valley called El Bierzo which is geographically more part of Galicia that Castille, with wine growing, good food, a modest place though. Has an immense power plant a couple of miles out of town, used to be a mining area. Like a lot of teams in 2nd in Spain playing well over their heads in 2nd Div, but have been very competitive and as their defense is good, I think they just need a few goals and they'll stay up.

Iain has never played in this style before, it may surprise him, but he is fairly technical and has good pace so I think he'll adapt. 

The fans are kiling the front office for signing him, they have no idea who he is and do not think he can help at all. One joked that Hume's only condition for signing was that he would not have share a locker with Descartes.

20 minutes ago, saintjoes said:

Ya that switch he pulled off was golden!

And actually leading up to that switch it seemed like his teammates were looking to play through him more and more as he showed how trusted he was on the ball to get them out of tight spaces and up the field. It also showed his leadership qualities due to calming competent play - another reason i think Floro and son have given him the arm band. Bodes well for the future.

Thanks again!

ps - I'd be happy to help translate from spanish for others also if desired.. though that lady commentator's lisp had this argentine spanish speaker baffled!

Hey santijoes, she was not speaking Spanish, she was speaking Gallego!! You should be able to understand about 80% if you speak Spanish, and the rest you figure out as you go, as it is basically a form of Old Portuguese.

I happen to find Gallego quite beautiful, funnily enough my neighbours in Barcelona speak it, including on the same floor of my building, I live in a barrio full of immigrants from Lugo

15 minutes ago, Fussball_eh said:

He is on the bench for Ferrol today. There is a free & legal stream of the game happening right now: https://t.co/28W2yaCZYu

In fact he has just come on, m. 30, though as I tuned in the announcers repeated the news that he is likely to move back to Deportivo B. And mentioned quite a few other changes to the roster. 

So odd, Piette is the sub in in a critical game  1st half, but they don't want him any more. 

TVG has the live matches on their site: http://www.crtvg.es/deportes/directo/canle/evento2

EDIT: he is on as another got a yellow, so the same coach that pulled him 1st half a few weeks ago, for no particular reason, does the same to another player and sticks in Piette. This coach seems to not be too confident of his team.

According to press in Galicia, Sam Piette could be close to returning to Deportivo B, which would end his loan spell at Racing Ferrol. The team's poor results and a few new loans in (from Cadiz) could be factors, though Sam certainly could not be blamed for the still league leading Ferrol to have won only once of the last 4.

Read it here: http://www.galifutbol.com/ligas-nacionales/segunda-division-b/item/17292-racing-pena-sport-previa.html

Disappointing news given he was playing regularly. 

15 hours ago, Fussball_eh said:

I don't really understand the Spanish football pyramid. Keep proving us with info please. I changed the info on the document too, thanks.

You have got it right for all three players, perfect. What about that goalkeeper who was in France, went to play in Barcelona, and now is in Granada youth team, forgot his name?

Spain pyramid is:

1-one national division

2A- one national division

2B-four national divisions, multi-regional

These tiers are run by the Spanish Federation.

3-18 national divisions, corresponding to official political regions (except Andalusia with two), whose federations run everything from 3rd down.

From the respective 3rd division for each Autonomous Community down, each region decides how to organize things and wht to call the divisions. The most typical name is Regional Preferente, then 1st Regional, 2nd Regional. In Catalonia, for example, after 3rd they call their divisions 1st Catalana, 2nd Catalana, etc, down to fourth. 

There are usually no more than 8 tiers in organized adult football with promotion and relegation, some regions have 7.

Looking a bit more at Guadalajara. That article says he was on trial with the second team, took a look and  the B team is in 5th tier in Castille but leading their division, on course for a promotion into 3rd division, one below 2B.

So I could see Cantave being there to help the lower level team promote as well as add to the first team, could move around. While 5th would be a step down, from where he was, in u-19, it is fine if it is how he can get minutes vs senior men for the first time, esp since that team is doing very well. For me looks pretty win-win.

Cantave, that is a very good move, I am impressed. That is a leap for him, if he gets minutes he is automatically worth looking at for our seniors since this is the level Piette plays at. The article says he trains this week and will be officially presented next.

Guadalajara is an important provincial capital that has stagnated in recent decades, the team is in Group 2 of 2B, where there are no historical powerhouses and the only team that is really technical is the Real Madrid B team; there are Basque sides and Castillian and it is a physical group. Lots of these teams would have problems in 2A and lots have experienced journeymen. Arenas de Getxo is a founding team of Spanish 1st division, in 1929, but is now small. Guadalajara too have a small stadium and are not really ready to play in a higher division either. Their goal is to stay in this one and enjoy themselves.

I was going through their roster and they have very good, smart signings, some others from Getafe and other Madrid area teams, players from other strong 2B sides in their division, a guy from their own academy. A Korean and a Japanese player. A young keeper from Valencia. Then some senior experience, like Marqués who was at NY Cosmos this year, or striker Riki, who was at Deportivo for 6-7 years and scored a lot, and Granada last year, a 35 year old with 1st division experience. They only show 3 strikers and have scored very little compared to other mid table teams, so Cantave looks to give them a sub with speed and possibilities to get past rivals and cross in, get a look on goal, I think if they've signed him he'll get minutes quickly if he can prove his pace is right and stays healthy.

1 hour ago, Trillium said:

The gig is in Phoenix, the USL franchise wants to go MLS at some point, he leads the soccer side, it may not be such a bad spot and might not have been as big a salary drop as some might think. In any case coaching careers involve movement down, up, or sideways better to be working at a pro club then sitting in a CSA office twiddling thumbs with a title given for past glory.

Remember Floro won't be around after this cycle so maybe a MNT return .... though I think there are better candidates for that spot when it opens up again.

If Floro gets us to Russia we'll make him a national monument and give him honorary citizenship, so he'll definitely be around. Another thing is if he chooses to retire on Canadian glory, but on a Mediterranean beach.

On 12/29/2015 at 7:57 AM, Fussball_eh said:

Daniel Silva Fracassa (*2005), former of Benfica is now at FCB Escola: http://www.barcelona-football-tours.com/tournament-11-B05-scorers

FCB Escola is not FC Barcelona, it is a pay as you go school that does not even play federated soccer, they play between themselves and do tournaments to get more games. Any decent kid can get in, as long as he is competent. It is a bad idea but parents get sucked into the name.

I know this because my kid used to play with a proper club that is also a Barça supporter group, UBCatalonia, and they had a deal to pick up Escola kids after they finished there, which if I recall right was u-13 (maybe u-14). Yes, my boy was that level, he played with former FCBEscola kids, which is lower-mid competitive football in Barcelona. 

Roman Tulis academy in North Van deliberately falsifies this distinction, as they are doing now with a kid named Asvin Chauhan, they are conning people about what they are able to really produce by doing this. They conned people with that player named Gianni Patino in 2008, much reported here, as they collected donations to send him to Barcelona to the FCBEscola, as I saw it a scam.

The facilities are not even that great, they have this poor artificial field in the shadow of Camp Nou, Catalonia plays the other Barça supporter group clubs in tournaments there.

One of the few recent players who was FCEscola, then Catalonia, then was brought back to proper Barça academy and turned pro, was Jordi Gómez, who was at Wigan and now Sunderland. But hey, the club my kid  is at now sent a player to proper FC Barcelona academy who played for Barça B and is now at Munich 1860, though on loan to Elche this year, Ilie Sánchez. This is not top level football by any means, in spite of exceptions, so better to be at a proper Bundesliga 3 club  or League 2 than there.

On 20/12/2015 at 3:43 PM, Fussball_eh said:

Just to let you know he has gone back to North America and looking for a club on this side of the Atlantic. He never really played for the first team and had a few appearances for the B team.

Thanks for updating. Silly to play in 7th tier Spain when you can play higher in North American, even PDL would be better I'd say. Another thing is if you have a legit contract on a 4th tier team and are young, like Fisk.

You knew he was going to watch the 6-1 drubbing of Roma, amazing!

Seriously, I see this might have been said earlier, but it seems to have been reiterated more recently. Or maybe folks just repeating what you had seen.

From Issey's Instagram account it seems he is going to return to Malaysia next year for the same club, sorry I can't post the link but was from a number of pics and posts. 

Right now he is in the same city I am, this is where his folks and partner are. He was at the Barça-Roma game last week.

Sam Adekugbe will be training with Brighton until December 20th, WCFC announce.

http://www.whitecapsfc.com/post/2015/11/26/whitecaps-fc-defender-sam-adekugbe-training-brighton

Hi. Thing is, I think in every league the levels for youth have different names. In Spain Juvenil is effectively u-19, right now those born in 97 and later can play in it. Think most other nations differ. So I understand Youth is alright, but it makes it harder if someone wants to track a player.

Would be lots of work, and frequently changing, but would help to put both.

Cantave, I think he may be on loan from Nantes as he seemed to be back there while injured. Seems he did have an okay year last year playing B and u-19 for Getafe though.