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  1. zen

    CPL Stadium Thread

    Then you're clearly delusional
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    CPL new teams speculation

    This isn't the same Oakville. This is actually the Toronto Lynx team that moved to Oakville and rebranded.
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    CPL General

    Yeah when no Mexican team gave a shit about the competition. Now, that MLS is getting to their level they actually care. Think of it, I'd love to see that Montreal team get spanked about by Tigres, just what's going to happen to CPL teams for the next 20 years. Voyageurs cup should always have a spot to Concacaf Champions League seeing as we will always have Division 1 teams playing in different leagues. Any second or third spot can go to the CPL Champions, runners-up etc.
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    CPL General

    That's a strawman's argument. I haven't read in any previous post that the reason for putting the CPL champion in the Concacaf League is to protect them.
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    CPL TV Contract

    I think they should've taken out national TV and newspaper ads. It might be expensive but there is no better way to get attention from casual fans
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    CPL General

    It was You'll Never Walk Alone's fault for adding in the comparison...
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    CPL General

    Sorry my statement wasn't clear. I was talking about MLS being better than leagues like the Turkish league or the Portuguese league. Sure, teams like Porto, or Galatasaray are significantly better. but the rest of the league really isn't. And, when talking about Italy or France, I'd say MLS team could compete with the last 5 teams in those leagues. In England, Spain or Germany, MLS teams are somewhere in the upper mid-table. Next TV deal will change that.
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    CPL General

    I'm not sure if you are insinuating that Swedish clubs are better than the clubs in MLS, but the quality in MLS has already surpassed the Scandinavian leagues. Please read my comment above where I state: "Attitude that the deserve big fees" It all depends what the player is worth on the free market. If the league and the team believe they can sell a player for more, why shouldn't they hold out. There is greater value in said player remaining in the league and growing, and being sold solely to recuperate costs.
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    CPL General

    That is because the US is a juggernaut in terms of wealth and soft power, with continued growth locally I can see MLS being on par with those leagues both in terms of quality and financial strength. MLS is already better than the Scandinavian leagues. Also, you can't compare the quality of leagues around the world to MLS by looking at just the best teams in those leagues. With parity on the deviation in quality from the best to the worst is not as high as in other leagues, and on average the teams in MLS are better than a large portion of teams in some first division leagues around the world, France and Italy included. "Attitude that the deserve big fees" It all depends what the player is worth on the free market. If the league and the team believe they can sell a player for more, why shouldn't they hold out. There is greater value in said player remaining in the league and growing, and being sold solely to recuperate costs.
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    CPL General

    Yeah you're right it would be 15-0
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    CPL General

    Thank you for once again clarifying. Maybe it's my fault for not understanding your position, but perhaps you could be more clear going forward? I believe that the results have been 1 or 2 goals at most, which is as amazing achievement. The problem I have with looking at results alone is that they don't say much about the performance, no matter how consistent the results have been, after all as I said you can put 10 men behind the ball and make it very hard for the other team to play against you. I don't think that's the kind of performance any team should aspire to but clearly it can work. Yeah absolutely they've found their niche and they're making it work for them. I think the CPL should do the same in that regard and I think they could be just as if not more successful.
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    Ottawa CPL Club

    I just said you are understanding the word compete to mean something different than the way I used it initially. If you go back and re-read the post you will see I am not talking about the teams playing each other, I'm talking about financial clout. I fully expect CPL team to be able to pull off upsets against MLS teams, it's the nature of the sport. I haven't made anything up along the way either, point out to me one thing I have made up that I have presented as fact rather opinion. You are using "data" before the league has even started to justify saying it has experienced astronomical growth, THAT is inane. I'm not saying any of that is going to falter either. On the contrary, I think CPL will be successful in finding it's niche, I just hope it has wider appeal than and at a higher level than BringBackTheBlizzard expects it to be. I am hopeful about it but am tempering my expectation that it will one day be able to compete financially with MLS, imho that's not possible. That does not mean it cannot achieve it's goals and be successful in that regard. Imo, people that believe this are deluding themselves. If you can't understand the difference between facts and opinion, and learn to how have proper civil discourse, perhaps you should go back to school cause clearly you missed a lot along the way.
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    Ottawa CPL Club

    You misunderstood my use of the word competing, try again lol. In terms of growth percentage CPL will be higher, especially next year. A 20% increase of a small number, can be smaller increase than a 5% increase of a large number in real terms. Starting out with 4-5000 tickets is awesome, but there's will need to be work done to maintain and grow that. In the past 10 years 1 franchise was shut team was shut down by the league and then reopened with a successfully with a new ownership group, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I'm not sure why you need to resort to insults to make a point, maybe you feel the need to prove that you're smarter than other people. You've clearly misconstrued what I've said. On a forum that can happen, I'm willing and then taken it upon yourself to insult me. I'll overlook it for now, if you can stop acting like a child.
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    Ottawa CPL Club

    Oh absolutely, when you're big growth can still occur obviously just not as fast. I'm not trying to quantify it, I think that would be silly. I think you said you're from Ottawa earlier, so maybe your perception of the market is different. I don't think Toronto as a soccer market is all that mature. Sure, there are a lot of people that love the sport in the city but many more that are just casual sports fans who don't really follow soccer. Of the people that are soccer fans TV access to European leagues often mean those teams come first sadly because let's face it the level of the large clubs in Europe is much better. To them, MLS is not yet legitimate and that's mainly due to the quality. MLS has to and will do more to improve the level of play over the next decade, and I can see it slowly creeping into the mainstream in the city as more and more people see the league as a major league. I can't speak for American cities, but I suspect among soccer fans there this is true as well. CPL will have the same issue, hopefully it can benefit from the World Cup and the work the MLS teams have been putting in to try to grow the sport. Hopefully the CPL will start to do the same by investing in youth academies etc and in turn build grassroots support in their communities. But it will be a long process. Sure the World Cup can give it a nice boost but that's not to say it will ever catch up to MLS. I honestly don't see anything wrong with that as long as it aspires to be the best it can.
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    Ottawa CPL Club

    It has given us 3 academies that invest in players. Most may not be good enough to make the jump right away and will no doubt end up in the CPL. So tell me how it has not helped us. The best has yet to come for MLS, it has been slow growth, but its growth none the less. Not really hilarious, no.
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