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15 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:
From what I have read USL salaries might average around 2000 US a month, with some teams paying 2-3 grand a month. Only for the season and preseaon, so a few months without pay. Often including housing. There is no minimum, so many could be making less. That is similar to 2B in Spain.
It is only worth seeking out chances in Europe, in all lower tiers but especially-Spain, if
-you have an EU passport and can live and work freely where you want.
-you are young and believe you have a real chance to rise and improve your status, or want the competitive experience.
-you happen to latch onto a stronger club that can pay a bit better and aspires to promotion; or if it is a B team of a higher level club.
-you happen to have some reason for being in that place, like having family nearby, or can even work in something else part time to compensate.
Again, for those 5-9 (experienced) players I mentioned I think you'll find the salary is higher - and much higher than in the lower leagues of Spain and Italy (if what you quoted earlier in a different thread for Piette was in the ballpark). For the young player on the bench, lower than the average you mentioned. The USL is weird that way, a mix of experienced professional with out of their depth youth, and some in between.
But otherwise, I like your assessment. If you are young, ambitious, have an EU passport and can connect with a strong club a good lower league in Europe seems the better option.
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15 hours ago, TFC2017 said:
Serie D has many teams who were previously even in Serie A. Como, Messina and Varesa as well as many teams who have reached the heights of Serie B. Italy and Spain's 4th and 5th divisions are of a higher level or equal in quality to the USL.
I think among the non-academy teams (and that's really what they are, unfortunately) I'd say there's 5-9 players per team that would laugh at the suggestion of moving to Spain/Italy 4th or 5th tier - and if they did so would be taking a more than 50% pay cut. Case in point, Jamaica had at least three players on its Gold Cup roster from USL. Remove those 5-9 players, and then those levels may be on par.
I can't say that I have seen much 4th and 5th tier football in Spain and Italy, but just that a lot of USL players would see it as a drop, and their bank account would certainly drop.
PS - there's a lot of former Premier and 1st (2nd) division English clubs in Conference and League 2 now - doesn't mean that they're still good! Yeovil Town was in the Championship in 2014 and now in Conference. Swindon and Oldham were Premier League teams - what does it mean now? Nothing.
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8 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:
When I watched USL this summer, all I thought was how much less pressure there was on the ball defenisvely, it was soft, players had time. They also seemed to be pacing themselves for long spells--or coasting. Spanish 2B, or third tier, has a higher pace and defensive mentality, more pressure on the ball, sharper overall sense of tactics, and better decision making. It is not pretty, because your rival does not let you get fancy.
That's true. But in defence of this NA trait, these guys are traveling long distances and playing two games a week quite a bit of the time. Players in England complain about Ipswich to Sheffield, but that's nothing with what the USL players face. And it's not luxury travel.
In regards to level and players, I'm okay with specialist players coming from this level occasionally to fill a need, but I hardly think that's the case with a keeper. Keepers peak much later anyway, and a keeper with no pro match experience prior to signing with D4 Italy. No thanks. -
3 hours ago, SpecialK said:
James Pantemis ??
At least Breza can lock down a job
Did I say anything about Pantemis? I just said, implicitly, that Breza signing for a D4 team shows he's nowhere near national team level. Your argument/question regarding the suitability of Pantemis for the national team does not detract in the slightest from my statement. Breza is nowhere near ready.
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2 hours ago, Toje said:
Sebastian Breza has signed with Potenza in Serie D (Italy)
And yet some among us are calling for him to be included in the squad for the El Salvador game... Reality check. One. Two.
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21 minutes ago, Big_M said:
As long as the criterias are clear there is no issue. In the first post it is said that players who are eligible will be tracked but in the latest post it said that players who might become eligible will also be tracked. In that case, foreign players on Canadian teams who haven't played in an official game for another country, who are not far from being able to get Canadian nationality and not far from reaching the five year residency should also be tracked. They have a much better chance of becoming eligible than Opare.
There was a rumour that Opare received a FIFA waiver, or that we were seeking a waiver. Looking at the case, I suspect there's a good chance it would be granted. His move to Canada was not football related. He lived in Canada for four years prior to turning 18, and a good case could be made that he lived in Canada while attending Michigan (just as Manneh still lived in the US while with the 'Caps) unless his parents relocated from Canada.
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2 hours ago, jordan said:
Emmanuel Okorougo who was at a U15 camp a few years ago is now at Crystal Palace Academy.
http://www.cpfc.co.uk/team/academyprofiles/
Date of Birth: 26/09/1999
Place of Birth: Montreal, Canada
Emmanuel joined the club at the beginning of the season after impressing on trial at the end of the previous campaign. A tall, powerful striker, he is very good with his back to goal and causes defences problems with his pace.
2015/16 stats: N/A
Read more at http://www.cpfc.co.uk/team/academyprofiles/index.aspx#iuISpFxlsyKoQb3Z.99Name indicates he'd be eligible for multiple nations. Let me be the first to call for us cap tying him!
What was Floro thinking by not bringing this kid in for the final two games. What a no-nothing idiot.
#captieeveryone
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I think you're right @WheatsheafSK
Makes much more sense, and would be only slightly less than the better foreign players get here in HK. If the foreigners would earn SG$10,000 a week then quite frankly that league's foreign players would be far, far better and higher profile than they currently attract.
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3 hours ago, Toje said:
Jordan Webb is earning around $10,000 a week playing in Singapore. However, his club may be looking at cutting the salaries.
For what it is worth, he wants Singapore citizenship.
Having had a little to do with foreign footballers in Asia, I am more than a little skeptical that he's earning SG$520,000 in S'pore - perhaps they only pay in season.
He's very keen to give up his Canadian citizenship - which Singapore requires, and it does not allow dual nationals - but Singapore has made it difficult to acquire citizenship in recent years after a flood of Chinese migrants threaten the Singapore way of life, or so the story goes.
Good luck to him.
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Caolan Lavery signed for Sheffield United. Left rival Sheffield Wednesday at the end of last season. Since he's under 24 and Wednesday had offered him a contract they are owed compensation. Should be fairly nominal.
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Interesting... Would love to see this for players with, say, 20+ MLS matches.