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  1. BCM

    David Edgar

    That actually made me laugh out loud, mate
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    David Edgar

    Alas, he would have had to live in Bradford. Besides the curry (which is brilliant) there really is nothing much positive going on in that down and out part of the world.
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    Canadian Dual Nationals

    I'm thinking the jacket gives it away, but they were just ID camps so https://canadasoccer.com/?pid=5769&t=profile&
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    Canadian Dual Nationals

    I never look at that thread out of principle - the entire frickin "Men's National Team" subheading is for general discussion!
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    Canadian Dual Nationals

    I would have thought Bassong, but he's just moved to Cercle Brugge so it would be strange timing. On the other hand, he's had his cup of coffee with the U19s but he's not stayed in the Belgian international circuit.
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    Atiba Hutchinson

    Love that my team played Canadians!
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    Marcel De Jong

    Twitter tells me Marcel was posing on the island for pics in a Pacific FC scarf.
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    Ricky Gomes

    Confirmation (of sorts), 2015 Olympic camp - https://canadasoccer.com/?pid=68&t=profile&
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    Ricky Gomes

    Yes, in 2015. But it's not listed on https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ricky-gomes/profil/spieler/258515.
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    Ben McKendry

    Exactly, and thanks. That's around what I thought, and there's a lot more money sloshing around Spanish football than there is in Sweden. Ben's team has a stadium capacity of 1000, and it's not filled (it's the smallest stadium in the league). Like I said, his team isn't one of the largest of the more traditional community clubs, and in fact they were in the 4th tier until 2012. Most guys in the team (and a lot in the league) will be part timers, earning maybe EUR50-100 a match, with bonuses for wins, goals and shutouts. For those on a real wage, it won't be high and cost of living and taxes are higher in Sweden than in Canada (these guys aren't going to shut themselves in the apartment and not go out! If they did, they wouldn't last one season.). With wages the same or lower than in 2007 in Sweden, I really can't see it being more than EUR25k (or so). There just wouldn't be the revenue sources to support it. One more thought, when looking at the wage stagnation since the global financial crisis, I notice it's not adjusted for inflation. So in real terms, these guys are worse off than they were in 2007. It's amazing to me that there's still a large group of "dedicated" followers who think just because a guys in (the lower leagues of) Europe he must be making good money.
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    Ben McKendry

    Thanks mate. I'm guessing casual observers like @shamrock would also have thought guys like Piette were on €60k+ while in Europe (in better leagues). I'm just not sure there's a lot of money floating around to provide that much additional revenue. It's really dried up post global financial crisis and again since 2013, it seems. There's some lower tier teams with good followings and steady membership (they are essentially community clubs and run several sports), but Ben's team is not one of them. The team just brought over a handful of Americans, and if all are paid €40k+ the numbers (plus accommodation and some meals) just won't work (incidentally, I'd think the HK born lad would be the highest paid). His team is small, but did just hire a 32 year old American as a coach who's keen on North Americans. So hopefully he can capitalise on this move and make it work for him. He's getting a bit old to be a prospect but there still could be significant growth to his game. I always thought he do more, and this is an opportunity. That's more important than whether he's making €25k or €50k.
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    Ben McKendry

    Haha, dude it says £87k.pretty clear my EUR there was a typo. You really think there's a big difference between 90 and 115? Of course not. it's basically the same, and it's not very high. Well below Denmark, for example. And you're talking two divisions down. And genius without a clue, at current exchange rate GBP90k is just EUR102,800. So the gap between what I stated in EUR and GBP is really very small indeed. I also know that Swedish salaries have dropped and are at 2008-09 levels - I'll dig out the peer reviewed scholarly journal article stating this is you want - and know for a fact that €25k is a higher amount paid to anyone on a team promoted to the third tier around 2006, and now in the second division. So the €25k is an educated guess, not pulled out of thin air. Again mate, tell me why you think third tier Sweden pays anywhere remotely like League II England? That's what you're essentially saying, and that is "embarrassing" you, to use your language. No reasonable person would assume this to be the case. Its laughable. Since you're only into "what we know", can you prove he chose Sweden over the CPL? It's a good assumption, but one you can't prove. Just like my figure for Ben, buddy. Feel free to provide a link to "prove" otherwise. You can't pick and choose when to accept educated or reasonable assumptions and when not.
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    Ben McKendry

    It's not hard to find the 90k figure online, from multiple sources. English league salaries are very easy to find online as BBC publishes them every year. It's a little more difficult, but possible, to find some attendance figures and more info on the continental lower leagues which indicate revenue sources. Attendance and revenue fall far short of USL, and Ben's team especially so. And then there's personal knowledge from having lived and played in Sweden (admittedly not recently). So what's your basis for assuming the third tier of Sweden (mainly part-timers, mind you, with stadiums capacity of 1,000) pays on par with (fully professional) league 2 of England? Sorry mate, no matter how much you wish it to be true it simply isn't. On CPL - for the lower tier guys, agree. The same is true for the 3rd tier of Sweden, I assure you. I would have to assume a lot of younger the CPL guys will share accommodation, as will the Ben in the accommodation provided. Edit: I'll save you time, here's the document on football salaries. Page 19 for Sweden. Feel free to apologise for that "ass" comment, mate. https://www.globalsportssalaries.com/GSSS 2018.pdf There's also a good scholarly article out there showing the decline of pay in the Scandinavian leagues beginning with global financial crisis in 2008 and starting again 2013 for some reason. It's more stark in Norway (around 15-20% if I recall), but pretty evident in Sweden.
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    Ben McKendry

    You grossly overestimate the amount of money and sponsorship floating around the third tier of Swedish football. I maintain EUR25k is max, and very few in the league would be getting this amount. For comparison, the average salary in the English League 2 - a more more professional and higher standard than the Swedish Third Tier - is slightly more than GBP40,000. On the second point, nah, footballers have never been the type to go out on the town...more known for forming reading clubs and knitting groups. More seriously, I get your point - which is why I said he may take home/net close to what he would in the CPL. But I suspect Ben is there for the experience and the chance to move up the food chain, and not for the money. Forgo a little now for the opportunity to earn more later.
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    Ben McKendry

    I'm not sure I agree - the average wage in the Allsvenskan is a little under EUR90,000. I would be surprised if the third tier (Division I) would pay a relatively unproven foreigner more than 20-25k, max. That's the high end. Yes, he will get shared accommodation and some meals provided, but he'll also be going out and spending in an insanely expensive country and pay for the privilege of living in a high tax jurisdiction. All up, I can't see how he'd end up with more cash in hand than staying at home to play.
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