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Reza

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  1. Leggat was an inspiration to keep the light on in those really dark days of Canadian soccer in early 1990s. And his persistence and passion and dedication which came through the show he would put together, was definitely one of the motivating factors behind even contemplating starting up a supporters club in 1996. RIP Mr. Leggat
  2. Thanks for setting this up Michael... We should work towards something for next year with CSA for all their matches here in Edmonton which at a minimum should be two from the sounds of it.
  3. Sorry, i haven't had time to read through all the chain above...just wondering..where do I pick up the tickets from ? and what was the cost? or do we just buy at the gate?
  4. 2 or 3 tickets for me as well. I will confirm by Friday. Can pick up before the game.
  5. Actually the original charter was voted on by what was the membership at that time (2001 or 2002 ?). At the time, we were few and far in between and that's the path we chose. Organizations change and evolve to meet the needs of the time. Also, the past 4 owners of this site (i.e. the code) have been myself, John Mark Mikhail, Jarrek and now, Speedmonk and we have had a variety of people who have made contributions to the site content over the years, so I don't think there is a relation between those who own it (i.e. the site) and those who would accept changes to the charter.
  6. That's great. As part of the process we will have to make sure the safety net is there. Thanks for all the work btw. Can't wait to see the new and updated site.
  7. That's right. I meant a web hosting company. In the past 12 years, we have gone through 3 transitions, not including the most recent one you are taking part in, so ensuring that there are host companies out there that would support our technology at an affordable price would be important and also, knowing who those companies are.
  8. Speedmonk One of the key items to consider is also redundancy of our website (multiple people should have access to the codebase) and ensuring that we have at least one major ISP which can support our system, in addition to the existing server.
  9. Cheeta & Jeffrey , I agree with your points of view. However, without trying to sound like a lawyer, in my view, deciding on those very basic ideas and changes like memberships or even more complicated items, like NPO, we need an official change process. At the moment, we are a loosely organized group of soccer fans around the country without an official change process. The only thing that the current charter states is that we can vote every year, without any stipulations and if we want to change that process, then we should change the charter. Jeffrey, I will add your 6 months suggestion as one of the charter amendment line items.
  10. Sergio Teixeira (Edmonton, AB) wrote at 5:32pm on December 9th, 2008 I'm pretty much clueless when it comes to technology, so other than the server costs being paid for by the organization, I'll defer all other it-related issues to the experts. For Finances though, 1) I never thought about it, but having the budget online is a good idea. Transperancy is good. 2) I don't know what the tax implications are, but we need to have $$$ in the bank. We need banners, we need to pay for the shipment of the banners, underwrite merchandise purchases (scarves, shirts, etc), plus wahtever else we decide to do in the future. 3) I dunno. Brett Graham (University of Victoria) wrote at 5:02pm on December 8th, 2008 I am also willing to help in any way I can. I can also do programming and coding; although, I am an application developer, not a web developer. Daniel Squizzato (Toronto, ON) wrote at 11:27am on December 8th, 2008 To piggyback somewhat on Ed's comment, I'm also willing to contribute in any way (well, except for coding/programming) to content creation for the main site. Send me a facebook message if I can be of assistance. Ed Swain wrote at 3:56pm on December 4th, 2008 Regarding the website (hardware aside), I am willing to step up to do content for the site in the new year. So James/Speedmonk, if you are looking for content pls email me via facebook. I have some ideas about player profiles, etc. Reza Khalili wrote at 7:29pm on December 3rd, 2008 Hi For the next few days, I would like to ask for ideas for the latter 2 tabs, the Voyageurs website and the budgeting part. To give you an idea, this the history of our site: 1996 -- 1998: ran on U of A servers -- myself and John Mark Mikhail used to manage the site 1998 -- 2003: ran on pair.com servers with the canadian-soccer.com domain name ... I used to pay for it and there was a few people who worked on it. There were some ads that we had which paid for parts of the cost 2003-- 2008: Jarrek ran and managed it and ran it on a server he owned, under canadian-soccer.com domain name and thevoyageurs.com later as well. He also did the initial design. 2008: Speedmonk (James McLeod) is in charge. He is in the process of revamping it. The link in which the excel file is in actually is on some server he owns. The cost could be about $400-$600/yr these days, but it varies a bit and could be more depending on the traffic. The more painful part is maintaining it. Reza Khalili wrote at 7:37pm on December 3rd, 2008 Cont'd Also, the other challenge is having a redundant server somewhere else and access to the codebase by multiple people, especially since we now have a database for our forum. This in my mind needs to be addressed in the long run. As for financing stuff....This is not my forte at all. To this date, the Voyageurs venture has been a slight cost / a hobby for myself and most people I know that have been involved. But in the future, if there is actual money involved, I am not sure what the best approach is. ---------------------------------------------------------- BTW, if you are curious how Voyageurs site has looked since 1998, have a peak here..for some its a trip down memory lane: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.canadian-soccer.com I can't find the university stuff anymore, which is too bad :-( Note, please be courteous to others during these discussions. Please simply state your opinions for and against different viewpoints and refrain from namecalling and accusations. Thanks
  11. Website topics: How many roles should we have on our website? How do we pay for the server costs? how should we host our web server? How do we change these roles? Where should our server be hosted? ------------------------------------------------------------- Financing How should the Voyageurs report their dollars? Should we post a budget online? Do we have to declare taxes as an org? Currently as an org we make no money Scarf initiative was done to pay for server costs and was done independently. T-shirt initiative was done by an individual. Do we become an NPO?
  12. And here are some comments from the facebook discussions: Ed Swain wrote at 4:04pm on December 4th, 2008 Regarding leadership, I would go for elected/appointed 'chairman/spokesperson' and 'treasurer'. I only see headaches with any other roles. What is a 'President' going to do? Regional reps are of no value whatsoever. We need to grow our numbers and get ramped up for next qualifying. None of that needs a committee, just some impetus and input from all our members. Report Reza Khalili wrote at 7:37pm on December 3rd, 2008 Cont'd Also, the other challenge is having a redundant server somewhere else and access to the codebase by multiple people, especially since we now have a database for our forum. This in my mind needs to be addressed in the long run. As for financing stuff....This is not my forte at all. To this date, the Voyageurs venture has been a slight cost / a hobby for myself and most people I know that have been involved. But in the future, if there is actual money involved, I am not sure what the best approach is. ---------------------------------------------------------- BTW, if you are curious how Voyageurs site has looked since 1998, have a peak here..for some its a trip down memory lane: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.canadian-soccer.com I can't find the university stuff anymore, which is too bad :-( Reza Khalili wrote at 7:29pm on December 3rd, 2008 Hi For the next few days, I would like to ask for ideas for the latter 2 tabs, the Voyageurs website and the budgeting part. To give you an idea, this the history of our site: 1996 -- 1998: ran on U of A servers -- myself and John Mark Mikhail used to manage the site 1998 -- 2003: ran on pair.com servers with the canadian-soccer.com domain name ... I used to pay for it and there was a few people who worked on it. There were some ads that we had which paid for parts of the cost 2003-- 2008: Jarrek ran and managed it and ran it on a server he owned, under canadian-soccer.com domain name and thevoyageurs.com later as well. He also did the initial design. 2008: Speedmonk (James McLeod) is in charge. He is in the process of revamping it. The link in which the excel file is in actually is on some server he owns. The cost could be about $400-$600/yr these days, but it varies a bit and could be more depending on the traffic. The more painful part is maintaining it. Sergio Teixeira (Edmonton, AB) wrote at 11:21am on December 3rd, 2008 For tab 3, HOW WE VOTE Option 2 - each member votes directly for the Leader and other positions NOMINATION PROCESS People can throw their hat in the ring as well as be nominated by anyone TERM 1 Year with no term limits. As long as V's continue to want to elect the same folks, then it's all good. ELECTION DATES Ideally we can have the first vote start January 1 and end January 31 for the 2009 year. For 2010 and future years, we can do the voting in December the previous year. So for 2010, we would vote Dec 1 - Dec 31. HOW TO CONDUCT Whoever has taken the time to register on the Forum is a V. One V, one vote on a position specific thread ie. President Voting Thread, Treasurer Voting Thread, etc. For tab 4, I'm not saying anything as I'm opposed to non-elected leadership. Report Brett Graham (University of Victoria) wrote at 10:46am on December 2nd, 2008 I have to agree with Sergio with pretty much everything leadership. Except I disagree about project leaders. I think they do need minimum cutoffs. If we are putting people in charge of something and possibly handling money I think they should be somewhat known. Report - Delete Reza Khalili wrote at 3:24pm on November 30th, 2008 Hi Actually, I was hoping that we could wrap up the leadership stuff, tab 2-4 by November 30th. If that was not too clear, then let's extend it by a few more days till December 3rd to see if there are any more inputs in general on leadership and also on everything else on tabs 2-4. Thanks Delete Sergio Teixeira (Edmonton, AB) wrote at 6:27pm on November 28th, 2008 For the Leadership Topic, are we just doing Leadership General and then each of the other tabs, or all Leadership tabs at once? Assuming, it's just the LEadership General, here are my answers; 1) Official Positions - President, Treasurer, Media Relations make up the Executive. Non Executive posiitons are for Project Leader (Website, merchandise, Vcup, V Golden Shoe, Christmas Cards, etc). Regional Reps are elected by their region but are non-exec. Regions to determine their own jurisdiction (ie. Edmonton and Calgary as one region each or Alberta as one region) 2) All Positions should be voted on 3) All elected positions should be listed on website 4) Criteria for Exec - registration on Forum for at least 2 years, min 200 posts. Project Leaders - no criteria required. Regional Leaders - each region can determine what's best for them. Report Reza Khalili wrote at 9:02pm on November 24th, 2008 Ok I guess I will add my two cents on this: I have my reservations on the elected leadership, just because I know how politics can play havoc with orgs. But if that's a way that people petition for one day and it succeeds, it is what it is. I however think we should at any moment now have someone who is the official spokesperson of the group (leader or president or whatever you want to call it) , we should have a designated treasurer and most importantly our web roles are clear and we have a backup plan for our website.
  13. The topic of leadership was also discussed on our facebook segway. The discussion was mostly around the topics stated in the following link: http://www.cansoc.org/reza/vquest3.xls ------------------------------------------------------------------ Leadership General: What are the official positions of the Voyageurs Club? President Treasurer Regional Reps (what are the regions ?) Webmaster Web Contributors Others Should all these positions elected? Should some be elected? Which ones? If some are unelected, then how do we transition those? Should we have the leadership name listed on the website? What is the minimum requirement criteria for a person to be elected? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Elected Leadership How should we vote: 1) Each Province and territory elects one member. Each elected provincial/territorial rep votes for the leader. 2) Each member votes directly for the leader. 3) Each member that has been a member for at least 2 years can vote. The length of membership will be directly taken from the period shown on the Voaygeurs forum 4) Each member that has a certain amount of posts on the forum can vote. 5) Each city elects a member. What should the nomination Process be for president: Throw your hat in? Nominate from region? Nominated by past president? Past Regional Reps or Treasurer or webmaster, etc..? Duration of Term 1, 2, 3, 4, unlimited Consecutive Terms How many consecutive terms What is the first suggested date for elections? How should the elections be conducted? How would we monitor them to ensure fairness? Other options 1) Indiciate it in the Charter with a start date 2) Designate a group to work out the details 3) Put the details to vote in 2009. ------------------------------------------------------------------- unelected Leadership If not elected, what the transition period should be every 1 , 2 , 3, 4 years ? Who picks the replacement? past president regional reps others Duration of Term 1, 2, 3, 4, unlimited Consecutive Terms How many consecutive terms ------------------------------------------------------------------- Note, please be courteous to others during these discussions. Please simply state your opinions for and against different viewpoints and refrain from namecalling and accusations. Thanks
  14. FYI, here are the comments that were put out during our facebook discussion on this topic: Brad Labrenz wrote at 11:20pm on November 21st, 2008 I haven't been a V for 4 years so I would be obviously opposed to the idea that a time limit is imposed. To be perfectly honest - you need a vote based on current membership. Those seriously interested will be the ones who take the time to vote. Report - Delete Reza Khalili wrote at 9:35pm on November 20th, 2008 As for me, I suggest the following for petitioning: 10 people with at least 2 of the petitioners, members for longer than 4 years. When you regsiter with the forum, your date of registery is also stored, so that information is readily available. Not that it is very likely in the world of Canadian soccer, but just as a way to prevent anyone from flooding and hijacking issues without having spent sometime with the group. 50+ 1 also works for me. Sergio Teixeira (Edmonton, AB) wrote at 5:16pm on November 20th, 2008 Hmmm....no one else is posting..... For the amendment process, I'd say 50 Voyageurs are needed on the petition. No length of membership needed. Voting to be done on a 50% +1 basis.
  15. As part of the discussions that we had earlier in October-November time frame and then later, in the facebook edition of our conversation, one of the items discussed was to conduct a vote to include an amendment process in the Voyageurs Charter, so we can address issues better as we grow. The current Voyageurs charter is here: http://www.canadian-soccer.com/en/aboutus_charter.asp In our facebook discussions, a couple of ideas were put out and they are as following: What should the process be to amend the Voyageurs Charter? 1) Petition by 10 persons with at least 4 having more than 2 years of history with Voyageurs 2) Petition by 50 or more members of Voyageurs What's a cut off percentage for an amendment to be added to Voyageurs Charter? 1) 50+1 % Just a note: When you regsiter with the forum, your date of registery is also stored, so that information is readily available. If you have other thoughts, please proceed by adding them here. I would like to prepare this for an eventual vote on the charter modification process by the end of the January. In the meantime, I will create additional threads here for all the other topics discussed (leadership, website, finance) so we can further discuss those and solidify our various points of views. With an amendment process in hand, change can be done more officially. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Note, please be courteous to others during these discussions. Please simply state your opinions for and against different viewpoints and refrain from namecalling and accusations. thanks
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