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    Should Canada get more spots than the US in the CCL?

    I might have agreed with you 12 years ago, but the average MLS team skill has increased exponentially from those days. let's see how the new format pans out before upending the apple cart again.
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    CPL new teams speculation

    But the majority of Canada's population is also in a pretty straight line within 200 km of the US border, so another pair of countries with a similar linear population distribution would be Chile and Argentina. In both Argentina and Brazil (in fact, most countries in the world), their 3rd division is regionalized with teams divided into 2-5 groups. In some African nations and most of Concacaf, the federations regionalize the 2nd division as well. Canada wouldn't be out of place to have CPL Div II split into regions where bus transportation is feasible for two-thirds of the trips and planes would be required for the remaining third. That would be less of a shock for teams making the jump from Div 2 to Div 1 as well as Div 3 to Div 2.
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    CPL new teams speculation

    You also forgot Brazil, which is actually larger than Australia according to Wikipedia. How do they manage a 4 Tier professional system? We could do worse.
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    CPL General

    I know it's a stretch, but I'm trying to figure out how to make sense of the nonsensical. That was a good point someone made about time constraints for administration purposes. I think one of the reasons we don't have a schedule yet is because they're trying to shoe-horn these CL Qualifier games in at the last minute. If FCE play against Valour in Winnipeg opening weekend, I expect you'll see Forge@FCE, Valour@FCE, FCE@Forge, Valour@Forge, and Forge@Valour in weeks 2 through 6, so they can get paperwork and logistics out of the way by end of May.
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    CPL Season Schedule

    I think I just realized why they're going with an Apertura/Clausura system: With this system, they can have single table, but they don't have to have a balanced schedule. Since they're set on 28 games, teams are going to play some clubs 5 times and others 4 times. As the league expands (hopefully), this number will fluctuate constantly, eventually becoming balanced when the league hits 15 Clubs. But in the meantime, the CPL will have a Spring and Fall champion that will probably require a 2-leg "Final Tie" (they'll call it anything but playoffs) in October. This will to determine which team was better over the whole season at the end of the year in order to mitigate complaints that one team was better than the other (though I did like the NASL's structure, which seemed more fair).
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    Canadian Premier League joins CONCACAF League

    There are 28 nations in Caribbean Football Union. There are 13 nations in the rest of Concacaf combined. The math is pretty obvious. Nothing in this federation gets done without CFU approval, which is one of the things any president just has to accommodate. I'm impressed that we were actually able to get a non-CFU president.
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    CPL inaugural match - #1 attended match for 2019?

    This talk of historical airfares got me googling. One advantage now that the original CSL didn't have was the advent of low-cost carriers. Airfare prices now are roughly half the cost they were in 1987, when adjusted for inflation. Maybe technology will allow this adventure to work this time?
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    CPL General

    I know it sucks, but I can kind of see the rationale for the CSA doing what they did. Concacaf League starts in July this year. The CPL season won't finish until October, so the 2019 CPL winner will have to be for 2020 CL. If they decided to wait until each team has played each other once that could be completed before July (though it would run into the Voyageurs Cup games). However that would be unbalanced as 4 teams would have had 4 home games and the other three teams would only have had 3 home games, so clubs could cry foul. There isn't enough time for each team to play home and away before CL starts in July. By limiting it to the 3 Clubs, they can have balanced Home and Away format games completed before July rolls around. They could add more clubs, but some others would have to be excluded, which would still have the same problem as now. There was no way they were going to please everyone this year. Knowing the communication issues, the CSA probably didn't know CONCACAF was going to make these changes.
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    CPL new teams speculation

    I talk more about league structures in this post here: One of the drivers in my mind that differentiates the leagues would be the travel costs. I was hoping to keep Div 2 teams withina bus ride of each other, rather than a plane ride, that would would still be difficult out west. Perhaps Bus travel should be expected for Div 3 teams and a few plane rides might be expected for Div 2, which would soften the transportation step between between Div 1 and Div 3. I understand your concerns about the last place team in the strongest division, but if you don't have a region to region straight swap, you could have Windsor or London forced to play in the western league. Hmmm, I'll keep giving this more thought and add another iteration to the linked thread.
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    CPL General

    I'm looking forward to seeing Valour or Wanderers in Ottawa as well. I really hope it's competitive so that we Fury supporters will have ammunition to take against the front office to press for a league change.
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    Canadian Premier League joins CONCACAF League

    One thing that galls me about this format is that the Caribbean Club Champion gets an automatic spot in CCL (which isn't listed in your second pot, Kent). There is no way they deserve that - they should be forced to play in the CL round. I can tell you that the cold will be the most significant advantage Canadian teams have in the first rounds of the CCL. The Southern teams won't know what hit them. However, I also want to point out that the CL final last year was held beginning of October, so I expect that the final will be towards the beginning of November. Still, if a CPL gets that far, the cold will be their ally.
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    CPL General

    Of *course* TFC would get the easiest path. Not scripted at all. 😒
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    League Trophy

    Why not just call it "The Governor-General's Cup" (GGC)?
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    CPL new teams speculation

    I've been giving this way too much thought and building possible future CPL Pro-rel frameworks on spreadsheets. The problem with having single table Div 1 and regional Div 2 is figuring out how to keep who goes up/down without eventually mucking up and unbalancing the geographical areas while also keeping a balanced schedule. Having an East-West Div 2 split would be easiest, but it doesn't balance out very well for travel and population. What seems to work best in my simulations is to have 3 regional groupings (in the West, Ontario, and East) because that matches roughly both populated geographical area and percentage of the national population +/- 10%. It would look something similar to what CONCACAF Nations League is structured like. If you structure each region to have 5 Div 1 teams, 8 Div 2 teams, and any number of Div 3 teams divided into sub-regions, You could have pro-rel at the end of each 28-game season. Div 2 clubs would only play home and away games twice against each team in their region. At Div 1, the clubs would play home and away against every other Div 1 club from the three regions. At the end of the season, the bottom Div 1 club in each region would swap places with the top Div 2 club in their region. This would mean 3 of 15 Div 1 teams (20%) would be replaced each season, which is about as high a percentage as you would want to maximize competitiveness without compromising league stability. Although the three regional Div 1 Tables would be used to determine who gets pro-rel'd, the teams would also be part of a single Div 1 National Table to determine who is the CPL champion and for apportioning additional Concacaf League or CCL slots to the teams that top the single table. Each week there would be one Div 1 club with a bye, but those would be useful at points in the season where teams had midweek international or Voyageur Cup matches, giving them a bit of a breather. The bottom Div 2 team in each region could be replaced with the best Div 3 team (by whatever method the Div 3 League chooses which team is best - this level will be the most fluid in format and structure). However, the winning team would have to meet the Promotion Criteria (say, a 1500-seat, restricted access stadium and year-round Front Office) or else the Div 2/3 pro-rel for that region doesn't occur. I imagine that there would be a couple of teams that would perennially be in Div 1 (*cough*Hamilton*cough*) because they would have the most resources - our equivalent of Arsenal and Man U. Some would end up mid-table and some would bounce between Div 1 and Div 2. Others would be happy being just Div 2, but their skill levels will increase year over year as they're exposed to the skills of the teams that had been playing Div 1 the previous season. The same would happen in Div 3 with the Div 2 teams that get relegated. Eventually, there might be a Div 3 club that finds an owner with ambition and Canada will have it's own ladder-climbing club story to match those told elsewhere in the world. It would also work in the future if the Canadian MLS clubs ever wanted to join the CPL - when they were ready, each would join one of the regional structures to balance the league quality.
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    CPL inaugural match - #1 attended match for 2019?

    ^ And I'd remind everyone, "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it."
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