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  1. hi dino, i know you are a big supporter of montagliani's and i like his effort. to me, he just doesn't appear to be very polished. and in his position that is what he should be - or he needs an advisor as to what he shoudl say or he needs a pr person to answer for him.

    and a podcast after an 8-1 loss? come on... anyone would say some very strongly opinionated things about the team and its players. he is a new hire - trying to show he is the man for the job. he had to explain the loss to "his board" because he needed to defend his position. and as anyone would in that position he deflected (by saying this was not the best shot ever) and said that the next 4 years would be the best shot - the time he will be in power. he is scared of his job. he is showing little confidence already and frankly i am more than just a little concerned.

    i hate to make such a bad analogy but this is feeling a bit like rob ford - a person for the people but has very limited speaking skills and poise for what is good for confidence in the public. i am worried to say the least.

    If Victor was ANYTHING like Rob Ford, there would be ZERO chance i'd be supportive of his presidency.

    I can assure you that the man is very polished, his speaking skills are far from limited (and extend to 3 languages with fluency and a 4th which isn't quite perfectly fluent but quite solid) and absolutely doesn't lack for confidence.

    IMHO, you are reading far too much into a single interview. You are entitled to your opinions and I won't go on and on trying to convince you otherwise. Suffice to say, I don't share your concerns....not even in the slightest.

  2. I hate to give credence to the continual ranting, but he has a point. The way the CSA is continually slow to get things done just doesn't inspire confidence.

    Have to disagree.....this is precisely the time to take your time, scan the marketplace and see what happens. Fans are always impatient but now is the time to take a go slow approach. There are plenty of people interested in this job but the key is finding the RIGHT person for the job because the next WC cycle is going to be a challenging one.

  3. Stillo will have to move from Genoa (either on loan or permanently) to continue his evolution as a player. Genoa has another GK that is on loan at Pescara as well (Perin) who would make it harder for Roberto to ever see playing time at Genoa.

    The good news is that he has been well schooled at the hands of one of the top GK coaches in Italy. Now he needs to go and find a good opportunity to play. I can't see it likely happening in Serie A....generally, Serie A managers don't trust young keepers. A young foreign keeper will have an even tougher time getting time in Serie A (or Serie B for that matter).

    As for Tomer, the move to Macabi is a good one....solid

  4. You started a thread because he used the word "think"? so, if he leaves the word "think" out of that sentence, you have full confidence?

    He has been on the record numerous times about his feelings after the 8-1 debacle. I'd suggest digesting a few more of his comments before making sweeping judgements about his ability to do the job.

    This is truly silly season

  5. sad that they couldn't make it work in W-League but it just goes to show how challenging it is to find a workable business model to support High Level Amateur/Semi-Pro soccer when there is so much travel involved. it is even more challenging on the women's side of the game as there is still not a strong track record of supporting elite women's team sports at the gate.

    I can't blame the Highlander ownership for pulling the plug. they are running a business. They may have made some errors along the way since launching their W-League team but that's life.

    Hopefully this will spur some talks to create a Canadian alternative (maybe a BC-Alberta regional league that is close to on part with the level of competition found in W-League)...

  6. not surprising he didn't get a work visa....with no NT experience that I can remember and limited prospects of being part of the set up anytime soon, England was never going to a viable option but there are plenty of other places a solid young player can go. Hopefully, wherever he lands, it is a club that can offer playing time.

  7. organizing a combine is a good idea but the budget for flying scouts/coaches in and putting them up in hotels would have to be significant (especially in year 1) because teams at the d2 or d3 level (or even clubs from countries like Finland) wouldn't necessarily be prepared to risk precious budget dollars on scouting an event in Canada. The organizers would have to foot a pretty hefty bill to get the right people to attend.

  8. The biggest issue we'll have with fielding a "strong" WNT for the Pan Ams is that the Pan Ams will be taking place very shortly AFTER the conclusion of the Women's World Cup (in fact, I'm not even sure if a date has been settled for the Final game of the WWC but I know the Pan Ams kick off July 10 and soccer tournaments often start a couple of days before the official start day of these big multisport competitions)

    If i had to take a wild guess, I'd suggest that the top countries in the Pan Am zone (Canada, US, Mexico, Brazil, etc...) will be sending young teams to the Pan Ams.

    FYI....I am the Volunteer Chair of the Sport Organizing Committee for the soccer competition at the 2015 Pan Am and Para Pan Am Games. I'm going to be putting a call out for volunteers to help me with this big endeavour in the new year.....

  9. Bloody nay-sayers. Glass never even half full, I guess.

    Is the CSA still supposed to be full of morons? I (naively) choose to believe that they must have a plan to make the money available. This is a great opportunity to keep a good number of #CanWNT players in top form.

    Yes, it's possible that the market still isn't strong enough to support a nationwide league. Yes, it could fail. But do we really have to prove how smart we are by stating such conjecture?

    Maybe this time, with better support from USSF, CSA and Mexico, there is a better foundation. Maybe the East-West travel issue (a biggie) can be worked out in 2014 (with 12 teams?). Who knows? I know that it doesn't help to crap all over it before it even gets off the ground.

    The negative tone of the comments thus far is disheartening. They are not "facts", but merely "I told you so" speculation, so that you can proudly beat your chest when things hit a snag. Well, for better reasons than being able to say you were wrong, I sure hope this works out.

    Rather than predicting doom, let's cheer for the determination of those who would try and try again. That spirit, along with the superb level of play we've seen recently, auger well for a successful league in the future.

    BRAVO....

    too many pessimists....

    success will be difficult for any women's pro league, in any team sport, but it's not impossible and this significant injection of financial support will undoubtedly help make it more feasible.

  10. The CSA is always crying poor. I assume these women will make in the $40-50,000 a year range. If so that's a min investment of $640,000. Where are they going to find the money?

    curious....when was last time CSA cried poor? I'm sure that it took some work and prioritizing to create the pool of money needed to make this commitment to those 16 players but the CSA isn't crying poor these days.

    Also, I would assume that the min investment is going to be more than $640K....

  11. I agree with your post. There seems to be a frenzy all of a sudden about futsal as being the ointment that will fix all our problems. There is also Street Soccer (known as Homeless Soccer),there is Soccer Tennis and Beach Soccer. All entertaining but far from a way to create the players we need. I still support small sided games in half fields, either indoor or outdoor.

    There is no "frenzy" that is assigning some kind of magic development powers to futsal. However, there are many people, me included, who believe that it is an excellent indoor soccer option, especially for youth in the 8-12 range. I have witnessed with my own two eyes how young players who go through a full winter of 2x per week futsal training and games are able to translate the skills that were worked on to be effective in a futsal match into success in the outdoor game during the summer.

    I do agree with Unnamed Trialist that those players who do excel at the pro futsal level are specialists....futsal is a different sport that requires somewhat uniquet skill sets to excel at the highest levels. There are some players who do opt to play futsal over football because they prefer it over the 11v11 game.

    At the end of the day, I really don't care where high level players play or train during the winter/off-season so long as they are doing it. Here in Ontario, getting access to 1/4 or 1/3 sized turf fields in one of our many indoor turf facilities (including bubbles) can be difficult to secure during peak hourse (because they are usually being rented to adult rec leagues who are willing to pay a premium for space). If you can secure the space at a reasonably convenient time of the day, you pay through the nose. A full sized double gym can usually be rented for half the price (or less) than turf. My preference would be to schedule more training sessions for the same money rather than spend premium bucks to train little kids on turf. It seems like a misallocation of resources. so if that means opting for futsal training over turf, so be it....the players will not suffer for it. I believe they will benefit from it

  12. Seriously, let's test the journalistic mettle in this country to go ahead and challenge Saputo! Everyone in this town is afraid of him. Marsch probably took a million to promise not to say anything bad about it. Seriously, the guy was shell shocked reading that statement

    And someone PLEASE tell me what the hell Impact are doing in Italy at the end of the season.

    "Let's reward our guys for not making the playoffs."

    "Let's work on team technique, even though half the guys won't be around next year..."

    Why would you have a problem with the Impact taking 25 players to Italy. the experience for the younger players will be amazing. It's Joey's money...why do you care how we spends it??

    As for journalists taking a run at Saputo, i think quite a few stories i've ready in the aftermath have been relatively critical of the decision. This is a big risk/reward move on Joey and Nick's part.....if they screw up the selection of a new coach, it's 100% on them

  13. For one thing, Hart was TD/Coach for virtually all of his tenure as TD. So if Fonseca doubles as an NT Coach, then I'll have an issue with his appointment. Tell me, what do you know about either Hart or Fonseca that leads you to conclude there are any similarities? You know, beyond broad generalities.

    It is my understanding that the TD won't be coaching....

  14. So we're going to go forward, by stepping backward.

    I don't buy any of this. We are going to improve our football skills by playing a game almost entirely removed from 11 a side.

    Not to mention that Brazil is hardly the team one wants to be modelling themselves after. When was the last time they won a world cup? How much time does the Spanish national team spend playing futsal?

    Indoor doesn't have boards, and it is played 5 a side. I know this, because I've played it within the last fifteen years. Gonna go watch my buddies play at the U of M this evening in fact. And I can tell you this much, haveing played with/watched these guys over two indoor seasons and one outdoor, indoor has improved their game immensely. Not just with ball control

    It forces a player to be more positionally sound defensively, because he/she can't slide tackle to cover up mistakes, and the goal is comfortable shooting distance from half. Not a lot of room for D error.

    On ball control, outdoor balls are used, and it benefits a player more to learn to control an outdoor ball (the ball they will use agaisnt 11) in tight space, than it does to learn to control a ball they will NEVER use in outdoor in tight space.

    Nothing against futsal per se but using it to train footballers makes about as much sense, as getting them to play sepak tekraw. None.

    this post hurt my head....ALOT

    Sadly, there are a fair number of people who are responsible for (not) developing our elite youth players who share some/many of these sentiments.

  15. Indoor soccer should be the primary objective for learning ball skills, movement and passing. It uses far more players than futsal and a larger pitch. Futsal is for individuals that already have great ball skills and it tends to be one dimensional using very few players.

    I could not disagree with you more, especially as it concerns young players, and I sincerely doubt you would find many high level coaches who would agree with you.

    In the outdoor game, everyone has moved / is moving toward small sided games as the best way to develop more skillful players and futsal is the indoor continuation of that.

    we do not need our youth playing 11v11 on big fields until the time is right (early teenage years).

  16. I've been hesitant to agree to the idea of converting a lot of club indoor to futsal but a CSA push to implement it into school PE curriculum would be a great idea. I remember growing up hearing about it and deciding with a couple mates to put a team in a rec league. We'd never even seen it (days before the Internet).

    Futsal MUST be THE indoor variant of the sport, especially during the critical developmental years (8-13). It should also be an important component of indoor training for older players too, but not necessarily the only component.

    Our players must learn how to dominate in tight space and under heavy pressure. They must learn to take responsibility for the ball and to find creative ways to solve problems. futsal does an excellent job of teaching that.

    recreationally, people can play whatever style of indoor soccer they so choose. But for players in the development or "elite" stream within the club/academy system, futsal should be mandated.

  17. However I must fundamentally disagree with your assessment that we need someone who "knows the peculiarities of Canadian soccer". This is the exact problem, we continue to think that no one else can possibly know Canadian soccer (because it is so messed up) so we must always appoint someone from "within" the existing system. This is the mistake we have been making for 25 years.

    The problem is the system itself, and intelligent while Fonseca may be he is the wrong choice for this hugely important position because he is from the same system that has been producing the same failures for decades.

    My argument is that the problem is the system itself; of people, management, development and most of all, appointments like this one.

    We continue to make such appointments because we believe that the only people who understand our fu#%ed up system are the people who work within it. Logic like this is only ensuring the reproduction the same tired old BS as we always get and are labeled as "solutions". How can those that create the conditions of our failures fix it properly?

    I firmly believe that we need an outsider to come in and CHANGE THE WHOLE SYSTEM. We do not need people with "knowledge of the existing system" to change it. We need someone to come in, strip bare and analyze the ways we do things and put in place a new knowledge of how to do things - and from there we can then start to train a new generation of Canadian players, coaches and managers who are set up to reproduce a new system of success. We need to unlearn what we have learned and learn to become a professionalized football nation, not continue to work within the system to change the system.

    Like I said in my original post, how is this type of appointment any different than how we have responded in years past? All we continue to do is promote another insider who has had marginal success with the existing programs. I am sorry but to me, this type of appointment reeks of fear of large scale change because those in power at all levels know we have to do it, but are afraid of change and don't know how to go about it. Insider appointments who "know Canadian soccer" are the complete opposite of what we need. The very problem IS Canadian soccer and how it has been run.

    Like the old adage goes: sometimes we need an outside person to point out our errors and give us a fresh perspective because they are not one of our closest friends who accept us unconditionally.

    I respect those on here that support Fonseca, however I stand by my strong reaction.

    But for the simple sake of hoping to see a turnaround in the whole game in Canada, I will say now that we have Fonseca, I hope he proves me wrong. I just don't believe in him though.

    Im just tired of giving the same old same old my hope that somehow magically this time will be different only to see the same histories come back to life.

    I would argue with you that the mistakes that have been made for the past 25 years (likely much longer) has been the hiring of people with little or no vision, little or no practical experience at the highest level of the sport and, most importantly, little or no desire to rock the boat.

    If I believed that Tony was totally lacking in terms of vision, experience and cahones, there is no way I would support hiring another person from inside the "system".

    The reason I have some hope is because I've been fortunate enough to get close enough to the situation to see that, although he's been employed by the CSA for a few years, he's not an example of the "same old, same old" and he certainly can't be blamed for the decades or stagnation that are the reason we find ourselves struggling to compete with tiny Third World Nations. Tony did not create this system...he worked in the system and, from what I can tell, he's been a strong advocate from the inside of making major changes to the system. Now he is given the task of doing it.

    It will be up to Tony to now get out there and prove to people that he's indeed cut from a different cloth. This is going to be a difficult job to do. The amount of cynicism that has built up is going to be a tough nut to crack.

    One thing you must understand is that the CSA Technical Director has, to this point, never really had the authority to "CHANGE THE WHOLE SYSTEM" as you call for.

    One man is not going to address the #1 most significant deficit that exists in Canadian soccer, namely our grossly insignificant professional soccer structure. Tony can loudly advocate for it, the CSA can publish studies that demonstrate why it is needed but there is a massive cultural shift that is needed within the larger Canadian soccer community (from an amateur recreational focus to an elite high performance focus) and I'm not sure there is anyone who is going to be able to fix that overnight.

    While the TD role is indeed a big one, there are only so many things the TD can really overhaul, especially in the short term. One thing that can be done fairly quickly and which I believe should be a top priority is the urgent need to inject a cultural change within the CSA Technical Department. Believe it or not, there are some good people capable of doing very good things working within the CSA's coaching ranks...they need to pushed forward. There are excellent people who are working in Canada but are outside the "system" and they need to be brought in because new ideas are neede. All signs of status quo and stagnation that exists will have to be rooted out. The CSA can only map out a new technical course of action if their people in the field inspire confidence and exude quality.

    I suggest everyone sit back and take a wait and see approach to things for the next couple of years. Avoid making knee jerk reactions. This isn't something that will get fixed overnight.

  18. ^ not really......it is very involved. The key takeaways from it were:

    a) players graduating to the Senior NT need to be playing ALOT of games at the youth international level in order to be better prepared to be successful at the pro level and at the international level (i think the number he spoke about was a minimum of 50 games from U15-U23)

    B) a major restructuring of NTC, provincial programs, provincial all stars, etc... must be undertaken. I can't pretend to remember all the details. We were not given handouts.

    My hope is that, in due time, Tony will make his final plan available for public consumption. I believe people are prepared to get behind a strong, bold plan but people need to be able to review and digest the technical roadmap.

  19. This is an interesting perspective from Nick Sabetti as to why the Impact may have made their decision to part ways with Marsch

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/2012/11/05/mls_montreal_impact_jesse_marsch/

    Speaking for myself, I'm not shocked that this move was made. Jesse came across as an intelligent and passionate professional but once Joey and Nick decided to bring in all those Serie A players, I became quite convinced that this arrangement was not going to work over the long run. It is very hard to blend an inexperienced coach with highly experienced players. Sometimes (rarely) it can work but it is tough sledding for the coach to earn the players' confidence.

  20. I sincerely do not believe that his decision has anything to do with budget limitations. People need to stop characterizing the CSA as a miserly and bankrupt organization. They aren't flush with cash like the USSF or the major European federations but they are not making these decisions simply based on getting the lowest priced candidate. Their finances are far more in order now than they've been in a long time, likely ever.

    I know people want "a big name" but the last time we had a somewhat big name (Dick Bate) he was out of here before you could blink because the TD role at the CSA is a very difficult portfolio that requires a deep understanding of the peculiarities of the Canadian Soccer system (I begrudge calling it a system because there is very little that is systematic about the way soccer is organized in this country). having a new TD come in from the outside without an extensive knowledge of how the game works in Canada is very risky. Having someone with Tony's quality and knowledge available makes this a pretty logical decision.

    Tony is a very intelligent man and a bold, strategic thinker. I had the good fortune to sit in on a Wellness to World Cup workshop about a year ago where Tony presented his vision for reforming the way our youth National Team programs were structured and the way that players are fed into these NT programs are organized. It was a brilliant presentation and, most importantly, it is a highly realistic plan within the context of the CSA's financial realities. If the CSA was truly flush with cash, Tony would probably have some other options to present but what he showed us at that workshop had basically everyone convinced that this vision was superior to the current setup, and it would be bear fruit over the long run. I sincerely hope that now that he's the TD, he'll be able to move full steam ahead to begin implementing that vision. A good plan is useless if it isn't properly executed.

    My only concern is that the CSA give Tony the additional resources he will need to attack all the areas of the job that need to be attacked. The TD role is challenging in a country like Canada that has a relatively tiny professional soccer infrastructure doing the bulk of the elite player development heavy lifting. He is going to need to enlist some very qualified help in certain key areas (coaching development and LTAD curriculum being the two key areas I see requiring a tremendous amount of attention from the CSA).

  21. As always, Vic impresses me with his incredibly well thought out and bang on replies. No need to provide my own opinion....I couldn't say it better than Vic did.

    The only thing I will add is that I'm not convinced, taking into account the Canadian reality, that we ought to be looking to post secondary schools to provide our solutions to our player development problems. Personally I'm ok with the the sports programs that our colleges and universities offer. Some do a good job, some are adequate, some are inadequate. But for me, that is a choice each school makes.

    Personally, I want to see our community clubs step it up and provide the bridge after U17 that is desperately needed. I'd love to see a day where our clubs realize that Senior soccer is a critical technical priority and must be funded accordingly, not treated as an after thought. There is nothing more special about repping your school than repping your club, especially if your club is operating a top quality, highly competitive program.

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