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6 minutes ago, AvroArrow said:

I would imagine Larin has dreams of playing for one of the big clubs of Europe.  He likely saw moving from the MLS to Turkey as a step in that direction, so I don't blame him for taking the opportunity.  Besiktas is not Barcelona, so I would imagine he viewed himself as having a good chance to crack the starting lineup consistently.

Also, I'm assuming he got a pay raise, so he likely viewed this as win-win, with the exception of living in Florida vs. living in Turkey.  Hutch seems to be doing fine though.

I don't want to start a debate but living in Istanbul would be, for me, a no-brainer vs living in Florida.

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1 hour ago, aloyol said:

I don't want to start a debate but living in Istanbul would be, for me, a no-brainer vs living in Florida.

I was thinking more politically.

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15 hours ago, Dominic94 said:

You seem misinformed....

Orlando didn’t value him the way he valued himself, they weren’t interested in making him a DP, preferring to make Dom Dwyer a DP

also he wanted to go to Europe which he did, he’s 23 it’s not over.

Hmmm the team didnt want to pay him what he thought he should get....I've never heard that one before. 

If he got a huge pay day in turkey, good for him.  I understand the desire wanting to move up and play in europes big leagues.  But looking back, he could have had 2 more years of starting in MLS, making a minimum of 180 (not sure when the options that JPG75 mentioned ran out).  I cant believe that this is how he thought it was going to work out.  A 21-22 year old needs to play if he is dreaming of going to make it big in europe, I hope he is getting great coaching/rounding out flaws in his game and will come out of this a better striker. Maybe he'll eventually go on to bigger things but its had to be frustrating riding the pine after being a starter and consistent scorer in MLS.  

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It is easy to say it was a bad move in retrospect, but at the time of the transfer  I don't recall anyone waving their hands and screaming that he should stay in MLS for a lot less money. He was a fairly dominant striker in MLS and had the chance to move to a team that was playing in the Champion's League and had a stronger domestic league. The fact that it didn't pan out is unfortunate but it seems like historical revisionism to claim it was the wrong move at the time.. I suspect anyone in his position would have done the same thing.

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17 hours ago, aloyol said:

I don't want to start a debate but living in Istanbul would be, for me, a no-brainer vs living in Florida.

As someone who lived in Florida for 3 years I completely agree. Florida is not an attractive place at all once when gets out of the beach resorts and gated communities. Even with the unstable political situation in Turkey and Syria I think Florida is a lot more dangerous place to live than Turkey.

I highly doubt he regrets his move. He has probably earned more and developed more as a player even if he has not played as much as he would like. I would say at worst he took a high risk gamble and broke even. He is still young and could still get another chance in the near future and have success at Besiktas. If another striker gets injured he could easily get some starts and if he gets hot could still end up being a success there. And if that doesn't work out he will still at least get a loan or transfer to another club.

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17 hours ago, AvroArrow said:

I would imagine Larin has dreams of playing for one of the big clubs of Europe.  He likely saw moving from the MLS to Turkey as a step in that direction, so I don't blame him for taking the opportunity.  Besiktas is not Barcelona, so I would imagine he viewed himself as having a good chance to crack the starting lineup consistently.

Also, I'm assuming he got a pay raise, so he likely viewed this as win-win, with the exception of living in Florida vs. living in Turkey.  Hutch seems to be doing fine though.

I may be in the minority here, but I'd choose living in Istanbul 100 times out of 100 over Orlando. One is a historic, cultural mecca of a city and the other is a soulless shithole of a theme park.

 

(I wrote this comment before reading the next page with other comments agreeing with my sentiment.)

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2 hours ago, Grizzly said:

And if that doesn't work out he will still at least get a loan or transfer to another club.

THIS. He has a nice cheque while living in a cosmopolitan city, and the worse that can happen to him (professionally) is that he gets a loan-deal to a smaller club. I bet he is laughing out loud. 

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12 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

It is easy to say it was a bad move in retrospect, but at the time of the transfer  I don't recall anyone waving their hands and screaming that he should stay in MLS for a lot less money. He was a fairly dominant striker in MLS and had the chance to move to a team that was playing in the Champion's League and had a stronger domestic league. The fact that it didn't pan out is unfortunate but it seems like historical revisionism to claim it was the wrong move at the time.. I suspect anyone in his position would have done the same thing.

Yeah of course and there's more ways to Rome. The fact that he hit a rough pad right now doesn't mean it's the end of his career. he'll rebound again and will take a step back to take another one forward (don't know if it makes sense the way I put it). 

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On 3/14/2019 at 9:50 AM, SthMelbRed said:

I may be in the minority here, but I'd choose living in Istanbul 100 times out of 100 over Orlando. One is a historic, cultural mecca of a city and the other is a soulless shithole of a theme park.

(I wrote this comment before reading the next page with other comments agreeing with my sentiment.)

The only problem with that, sad to say, is that Turkey is in an extremely repressive mode, and human rights are being destroyed. Thousands of civil servants, perceived to be not favourable to the governing party (Erdogan), have been summararily fired. School teachers dumped. And all opposition is repressed violently. There was a supposed coup attempt a few years ago, real or not, and that is the excuse to purge tens of thousands.

The current leader of the league in Turkey, Istanbul Basaksehir, is the regime's team, they have virtually no fan base, but are beating out the big three in the capital. The struggles of teams with a more "liberal" reputation, in terms of more relaxed Islamic ideals and social mores, Besiktas included, could be arguably related to them being out of favour politically. 

A former design student of mine who is a skater and has a street wear line, was in Ismir for almost a year looking to produce his textile there. Because he did skating with socially deprived kids he caught the attention of the authorities, and was offered a job in Ankara, with the Ministry of Culture, to run skate programs. But he says in Ismir, he had friends skating, students, workers, and he'd find people would just disappear, because just being skaters they were perceived as dissidents. He did not take that job.

Let's not even mention the disgusting treatment of ethnic minorities, Kurds, Alevis, others. 

So to conclude: in principle more interesting than Orlando, but lots of caveats there.

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