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59 minutes ago, A_Gagne said:

Except that part where Larin took a piss on the MLS.

Oh I imagine a lot of things look very different to Larin these days.  The promise of regular minutes again might make for strange bedfellows.  

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11 hours ago, Bison44 said:

Oh I imagine a lot of things look very different to Larin these days.  The promise of regular minutes again might make for strange bedfellows.  

Yeah, but even if Larin had an interest in coming back to MLS, I doubt very much the MLS forgets they're parting circumstances. MLS contracts players centrally, and the head office has the final say on any contract. Larin forced a transfer by basically telling them their entire "club option" system of contracting players wasn't legal. I think it's extremely unlikely he'll ever be employed in MLS again.

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13 minutes ago, PhillyCanuck said:

Larin just scored his first goal in a while for Besiktas. He entered the match against Akhisarspor as a sub in the second half:

 

Good run, control & finish.  Hopefully his confidence continues to grow again.  You can see the relief in his face after celebrating.

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apparently Besiktas have not been paying some players. I don't know if Larin and Hutch are among them but Karius is suing the club and it sounds like FIFA might come down on them. Would not be surprise if both leave at the end of the season.

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On 2/14/2019 at 2:30 PM, BrennanFan said:

Hope something works out for him, this is the level he should have gone with in the beginning. 

I still cannot understand why Larin chose MLS and Orlando over Genk back in 2015.   

I don’t know but there is a 27 year old Spaniard one of the best players in the Belgium league coming to Canada soon who is leaving the the Belgian League to come play in the MLS, Moreover, a guy name Almiron ever heard of him ? He chose the MLS over a few other leagues he could of gone too. Almiron did quite well in the MLS for a couple of seasons and now is in the English Premier League with Newcastle and so far is doing pretty good. I would argue Larin did even better than Almiron in the MLS but is riding the pines in a much inferior league than the English Premier League the Turkish League , so your argument that Larin should have chosen the Belgian league or the Dutch league over MLS makes no sense . Your saying if Larin would have chosen either of these two leagues over the MLS he would have been better off really ? It worked ok for Almiron so far  so why not Larin? 

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I've said it before on here, I think banging in 10-15 goals a year in sunny florida must be looking pretty good to Larin now.  I hate to see a CDN guy get himself derailed heading over to Europe (Henry I am looking at you too).  What was he making 180g a year, playing 25-30 games a year, living in florida.  He would probably be maxed out or on TAm money by now.  Could have been worse, oops has been worse since going to turkey.  Mls isnt so bad that you have to run from it as soon as you rise to the top.   

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1 hour ago, 1996 said:

I don’t know but there is a 27 year old Spaniard one of the best players in the Belgium league coming to Canada soon who is leaving the the Belgian League to come play in the MLS, Moreover, a guy name Almiron ever heard of him ? He chose the MLS over a few other leagues he could of gone too. Almiron did quite well in the MLS for a couple of seasons and now is in the English Premier League with Newcastle and so far is doing pretty good. I would argue Larin did even better than Almiron in the MLS but is riding the pines in a much inferior league than the English Premier League the Turkish League , so your argument that Larin should have chosen the Belgian league or the Dutch league over MLS makes no sense . Your saying if Larin would have chosen either of these two leagues over the MLS he would have been better off really ? It worked ok for Almiron so far  so why not Larin? 

There is a large chasm of difference between Almiron's development curve and Larin's. 

Though young, Almiron was already a seasoned pro having played for years in Paraguay and Argentina, and having won the Argentinian League as his team's #10 - all before coming to MLS.  MLS was just a quick stopover for him and everyone knew it.

Larin was a rookie in every sense when he started in Orlando.  He still had a long way to go development wise and yes, there is no question that Larin would have developed into a much better player at Genk, who have one of the best player development programs in Europe, having recently produced De Bruyne, Courtois, Jamaica's Leon Bailey and Origi to name a few.  Comparing the football education Larin received at Orlando to what he would have received at Genk is laughable. 

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2 hours ago, Bison44 said:

I've said it before on here, I think banging in 10-15 goals a year in sunny florida must be looking pretty good to Larin now.  I hate to see a CDN guy get himself derailed heading over to Europe (Henry I am looking at you too).  What was he making 180g a year, playing 25-30 games a year, living in florida.  He would probably be maxed out or on TAm money by now.  Could have been worse, oops has been worse since going to turkey.  Mls isnt so bad that you have to run from it as soon as you rise to the top.   

You seem misinformed....

Orlando didn’t value him the way he valued himself, they weren’t interested in making him a DP, preferring to make Dom Dwyer a DP.

 

also he wanted to go to Europe which he did, he’s 23 it’s not over.

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I think Orlando wanted to pick up 2 more option years on his entry level contract, right? So in 2018 and this coming season he would have been making a couple hundred K versus probably multiples of that with Besiktas.

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I dont think.he was thinking about development when he wanted to leave Orlando. He was thinking about getting paid and i dont blame him

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We shouldn't be so harsh on Larin.  Perhaps he took one step too big but who can blame him for being attracted to a fairly top European team in Besitkas.  Young players here jump to play overseas for 3rd, 4th, 5th division teams in average leagues.  The reality is that he is  currently the 3rd or 4th best attacker on the team and his playing time shows.  It's not like hes been dropped, week in and week out he makes the 18 man squad for one of the most prestigious clubs in Turkey.  I agree he needs to find more playing time but his age, he still has a career ahead of him and potentially a good European career as well.

Edited by Corazon

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I would imagine Larin has dreams of playing for one of the big clubs of Europe.  He likely saw moving from the MLS to Turkey as a step in that direction, so I don't blame him for taking the opportunity.  Besiktas is not Barcelona, so I would imagine he viewed himself as having a good chance to crack the starting lineup consistently.

Also, I'm assuming he got a pay raise, so he likely viewed this as win-win, with the exception of living in Florida vs. living in Turkey.  Hutch seems to be doing fine though.

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