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  1. CPL General

    If you are going to refute a criticism, provide some evidence to refute it. On second thought, nevermind. It was likely a hopeless task to get you to be honest with people on this forum. I suspect it would have been better of me to simply have let this go.
  2. CPL General

    Considering you are not at the table, you certainly do a lot of talking. 2018 is off the table, and when that is announced the above statement will look a bit foolish. And before you respond by pointing out the business plan that you presented to the CSA, I assure you it will have little or no impact on the final product. If I don't miss my guess, they binned it. Sorry to be blunt, but this is delusion of a high order. It is wonderful that you are very enthusiastic about the upcoming league but it is important for people to stay grounded as well.
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  4. CPL General

    There are only so many potential reasons for that to have happened. I know those reasons, but I completely understand if you do not believe that I do as I have not provided any credentials. I will not provide any so you will just have to judge what I say as we go forward and if I continue to post. If I have at least raised the possibility that the source of the information that was leaked was not reported accurately and that its subsequent removal was not necessarily for the reasons that you concluded, then that will have to suffice. And just to be clear, I am not debating whether or not it was true information, only the way in which it was received and why it was removed. And to make one further point, this is a perfect example of why the CPL is very careful with information. Thankfully, all of this will come out eventually and you will all know the truth of the matter.
  5. CPL General

    Well I do not think we are that far apart on this to be fair. I think having Paul Beirne state over and over that 2018 is the goal but if they are not ready that they will launch in 2019 and then having stated, leaked, or otherwise released information say 2018 may seem slightly misleading but is not really much of a shock. If they are aiming for 2018 why would they put anything else on a presentation? If you think that qualifies as logic falling apart then you are entitled to your opinion and I likely will not convince you otherwise. As for the disappearing information, you do not know why it disappeared and it is not at all for the reason that you think. It was a very unfortunate incident, but also a lesson in who and who not to trust.
  6. CPL General

    Trust me. I could tell you stories. But I will not.
  7. CPL General

    I am not even sure where to start with this. Not only have you not provided any reason for why my logic 'falls apart', you have likely, with the last point, reinforced my point rather than refuted it. I am not convinced you understand my point to be frank. However, I will give a brief response. My recollection of what McGrane said and what was reported was that the CPL was targeting 2018. What Paul Beirne has said was that they are targeting 2018 but if they are not ready then it will be 2019. No inconsistency there. I have no idea what your point is with the so called 'Halifax Papers' but they were accidentally posted on a publicly accessible City of Halifax website and were not for public consumption. If your last point about some Voyageur allegedly getting information from Steven Sandor (Am I correct that he has not confirmed that this information came from him? Am I correct that that information seemed to have been very quickly deleted?) somehow refutes the assertion that you should be careful where you get your information from, it does not. It actually reinforces it. It may turn out to be true, but you should be curious as to why it disappeared so fast.
  8. CPL General

    Well I must admit you got me there. Using the word 'owed' was an extrapolation from your general tone but was not contained in the meaning of your actual words. Mea culpa. It is a possibility that releasing some more information by now would have been a wiser approach. But erring on the side of caution, especially while dealing with prickly local politicians, might yet prove to be the better strategy on their part. However, since we are on tendencies, yours is to ignore people's main points and deflect from critiques by focusing on some other minor point. One other general point not related directly to you, Blizz, is that groups wanting to use a facility on private land or in a facility already zoned for sports or entertainment have much fewer hoops to jump through in regards to establishing themselves. You have not heard much about some locations simply because they need far fewer permissions.
  9. CPL General

    The language they used at the time was very careful and promised nothing in the way of an announcement. Neither did the language at the Regina event. However, it would have been very easy for Paul Beirne or one of the ownership representatives to make an error and suggest things were further along than they actually were. However, I am not aware of a single case where that has happened. I am happy to be shown to be wrong and it is unlikely that I have read everything produced, although I am not aware of anything I have missed. If you have a quote from Paul Beirne, a league representative, or someone from an ownership group that says that there was to be an announcement in 60 to 90 days, please provide it. Whether or not the CPL owes you an explanation as to why they have not announced yet is certainly up for debate. I am sure it would have been appreciated but as I alluded to before, with what they are trying to accomplish placating a few people on this message board is not foremost in their thoughts.
  10. CPL General

    Which league rep are you referring to, what information was delivered, and to whom? Was the information for public consumption or was it internal? Was it leaked or was it released officially from the CPL? Which presentations did McGrane and Sandor leak (please provide links)? How is Paul Beirne flawed? Please explain.
  11. CPL General

    I am very sympathetic to this. However, I think it may have been less heart rending for people to have realized the following: 1. If you have been following what Paul Beirne has said, you will have noticed that he has been incredibly careful about what he's said. From what I can tell, and I believe I've read or listened to everything that he has said on the subject, he has not yet misspoken. So far, you can take him entirely at his word. So when he says they are evaluating ownership groups over the next 60 to 90 days it does not mean that an announcement will follow. So if you got all charged up and excited and then felt let down and betrayed in September, you have only yourself to blame. 2. There are a couple good journalistic sources and a couple blogger types who are close to the action, intelligent about what they write and what they don't write, and who have been more trustworthy than others. However, you should be casting a critical eye at what they have said and not pick out that which supports your hope while discarding what does not. Everyone must admit that the last bit is way too prevalent around these parts, and most if not all have been guilty at one point or another. 3. You should beware any information from anyone who does not systematically independently confirm the information they are reporting with at least one other source. Famously, that is what kicked a lot of this off now was it not? 4. Information is very often compromised when the individual reporting it is trying to get an 'in' or takes critiques as personal attacks. I am well aware that the above points are difficult to realize in the moment.
  12. CPL General

    Thanks for the explanation. For me, this is only about personalities insofar as personality's effect on truth, representation, and communication. I am not particularly interested in getting into personal battles regardless of how blunt or critical I have been. However, living in an age of misinformation where people take their gut instinct as fact, it is important to challenge people regularly lest they begin to dominate the discourse.
  13. CPL General

    Is this sarcasm? Of course I'm not taking 'favourite person ever' literally, but speaking more generally it's very difficult to interpret people's text, hence the reason I'm asking.
  14. General Discussion on CMNT

    Oh boy. Let me give you an opportunity to reevaluate this claim. Right now, who is in charge of the men's youth programs and what steps have they taken to improve the state of those programs in 2017? What percentage of Canada Soccer's budget is committed to men's youth teams? In the previous qualifying rounds for U17 and U20, what players did the staff identify as the first choice lineup, which of those players ended up playing in the tournaments, and for those that did not play, what were the reasons? If you can answer those off the top of your head, then you have just scratched the surface. If only large amounts of Google searching will help you answer them, then perhaps you should moderate your claim a bit. It's not that some of your criticisms of the programs are devoid of merit, it's how certain you are of them with what I suspect is a lack of real information. I am happy to be proven wrong on that point.
  15. CPL General

    If I knew as little of what's going on as you clearly do, I would spend much more time asking questions rather than making statements like this. Casting doubt on a process that you don't understand, and likely don't have the resume to play the tiniest role in, is yet another example of your schtick now, isn't it. To be fair, much of the cheerleading on here isn't much more accurate. But you seem to have a particularly large chip on your shoulder as if it's more important to prove the thesis that everyone in Canadian soccer is useless rather than to improve Canadian soccer. By framing it the way you have of course, you've given yourself an opening to now characterize any positive upcoming announcement as a negative one. And I predict you'll do exactly that. When they announce the league you won't give CPL and their owners credit for building a business plan, building legal documents from scratch, building the necessary league standards, finding willing ownership groups who not only share the league's very high goals and philosophy, are willing to invest rather large sums of money at considerable risk, but who would also agree on all of the details in the various documents I outlined above. You instead will criticize things for your own mostly imaginary reasons. The task is mammoth. Yet you think it even occurs to them to save some information releases for when the 'troops get a little restless.' I assure you, this is not the case, and you're a fool if you think so.
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