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  1. CPL new teams speculation

    My bigger concern would be the location. From what I understand (if this is like other federal procurement/development projects), the RFP for Lebreton required a significant amount of detail on the part of the proponents. The info sessions held detailed pretty well every component of the two proposals, and I can't recall there being any space that wasn't already flagged for commercial space, a park, or something else. I very much doubt that Melnyk would be in a position to just decide to throw in a(nother) stadium as this would represent a fairly significant change to his group's proposal. I wouldn't doubt that he'd be able to find space somewhere else (maybe even a cheaper spot on the Gatineau side?), but I can't see a(nother) stadium happening at Lebreton.
  2. CPL Division II - Pro/Rel discussion

    Just my two cents' worth . . . I know I harped on this a bit regarding St John's, but one of the reasons I'm hesitant about pro/rel in Canada is the travel costs. Barring a national airline sponsor (fingers crossed, WestJet!), it's going to be expensive enough for the larger clubs to travel from coast to coast. I think teams like Halifax, Winnipeg, SK (TBD) and Edmonton (eventually) could absorb the costs without too much difficulty. But if we're talking pro/rel after 16 teams, then we're getting into much smaller urban centres, which will likely mean a smaller bases for tickets sales/merchandise sales, as well as corporate sponsors/owners with shallower pockets. This works well in Europe as 1) it's been built into the system since day one, and 2) you're typically dealing with much, much shorter travel distances and lower travel costs. TGV and budget airlines makes this much more feasible for lower-division European teams that move up through the ranks. Unfortunately, we just don't have that kind of set-up in Canada. I know that Russia, Brazil and several other geographically-large, federal states use pro/rel, but I have a gut feeling that the history of soccer in these places works in its favour. I'd love to see it work here, but my gut feeling is that we'd be setting up smaller clubs for failure.
  3. CPL General

    I'm rather partial to the "Charlottetown Confederationgolfcoursereddirtclamdiggers", myself.
  4. CPL new teams speculation

    Not to nitpick, but those economic/employment stats are seriously out-of-date. Oil production in the province has been declining for some time now, and the slump in oil prices has really hit the province hard, driven up unemployment and resulted in much bleaker budgets than in the past. I was lucky enough to live there for a few years just before the peak, but going back now and talking to people back on the island, it's a whole different story. I seriously hope that Beirne has some sort of corporate deal/sponsorship in the works for travel, because that would 100% change my outlook on this. If he's that confident, I'm just hoping and praying that this turns out to be the case. Also, when citing ethnic origin . . . you forgot to include the appropriate breakdown of townies, baymen and skeets.
  5. CPL new teams speculation

    Don't get me wrong, I would love nothing more than to see a team thrive in St John's, and I'm a big fan of George V Park and the local products they've been developing on the island. I'm just wary of having a professional soccer team there when so many other well-supported teams didn't last. The distance/travel costs were big factors in moving the Leafs and the Ice Caps (as we've all acknowledged), and even the Fog Devils (LHJMQ team with independent ownership) ended up in a pretty bad financial state after two or three years before they were sold off and moved. If town were on the mainland, like Saskatoon or Regina, I don't think it'd be an issue at all (plus, these two cities benefit from being fairly central in the West and making travel costs a bit more reasonable). But having lived there, I know that travel can be a real obstacle. Memorial University doesn't even have a hockey team because the travel costs to the mainland don't justify it (yes, university teams are obviously different than professional teams, but the fact that a Canadian university can't make a hockey team work just seems wrong). I've had friends of mine living in Toronto - not even Winnipeg, or Regina, or Victoria, but Toronto - trying to fly home before and find out that they could fly round-trip to Frankfurt or Dubai for cheaper. If the CPL manages to do like the Toronto Wolf Pack and get a sponsorship deal for travel, then obviously this would be a game changer. Get WestJet or *vomit* Air Canada to cover/subsidize the costs, and then it's a whole new scenario. But barring that, and looking at the recent history of sports teams in the city, I have a very, very hard time feeling confident that a soccer team in town would make it in a national league. I'm not usually a naysayer when it comes to making soccer work in Canada, and I'm not definitively saying that it won't work . . . but this idea just raises a lot of red flags for me.
  6. CPL new teams speculation

    I'd be more concerned about the actual potential of any St. John's based franchise to go the distance. The Maple Leafs, the Fog Devils, and the Ice Caps Vol. 1 and 2 all ended up being relocated/soon to be relocated. If professional and semi-professional hockey teams can't make it there - and this, despite fairly solid local support and relatively deep pockets - I just don't see how a professional soccer team targeting 5,000 avg. attendance is going to make it. As much as I love the city, with the travel time and costs associated with having a team there, I'd be very, very wary of setting up a team there, at least in the first five to ten years of the league. Maybe once the CPL is more of a known quantity and there's greater media/pubic buy-in, but definitely not to start out. It'll be interesting to see what happens with the NBL team.
  7. CPL General

    I've had my issues with @BringBackTheBlizzard too, but there has been a fairly noticeable and positive shift which I think is great. There are still disagreements on certain issues, but that happens with every user on this forum. In that same spirit, can't we just try to be a bit more constructive and focus on the topic at hand? I don't really see anything in the last few posts that couldn't have been included in a PM to BBTB for a private discussion.
  8. I think it's time we start a separate "BOOM - SOURCES CONFIRM [INSERT HERE]" thread for this kind of thing.
  9. CPL General

    Just a thought . . . When the big announcement for the CPL was made on 6 May 17, the press release stated that they had "already received expressions of interest from 10 Canadian cities and will be assessing bids over the next 60-90 days." We're just past the 60 day mark, so in theory everything should be wrapped up in another month. Any bets on when the results will officially be made public?
  10. CPL General

    Everyone else loving the CPL ads at the Cdn Championship match tonight?
  11. CANCON supporter songs

    As long as the Halifax Wanderers SG sings "Barrett's Privateers" - in its entirety - starting in the 78th minute, I'll be happy as a clam.
  12. Constructive CPL thread

    I had the same thought - and considering that last night's game was do-or-die for the Sens, that says even more about the support that the Fury had. In any case, it did get to the point where they had to open the north stand because the south stand couldn't accommodate the crowd, so that's certainly a plus.
  13. Constructive CPL thread

    So I made it down to TD Place last night for the Fury FC-TFC match, and I have to say I was not disappointed. There was a solid turnout from the fans (~ 7600, if I recall), level of play was solid, and the atmosphere was great. I brought a first-timer friend of mine to the match who was definitely surprised by how much he enjoyed the experience - especially the party atmosphere generated by the rival supporters groups. Most importantly, though, someone with SMR brought a huge banner with only one word on it: #CanPL. https://twitter.com/FuryFanatic/status/867154915046641664 I know a number of people have been discussing OSEG's perspective on the new league, but it's good to know that the grassroots are tapped into to what's going on and supportive.
  14. Potential CPL logo concepts

    Very sharp - I love what you've done in terms of finishing touches on the gate. I would only suggest two minor edits: -I know it makes sense to use club de football, but in French it's typically still just FC. PSG, Monaco and a few other Ligue 1 teams use it. If you want something more authentically "French", maybe try AS (Association sportive) - though that would have to precede Québec (i.e., AS above the design, Québec below it). -It should be Québec with an é, not an è.
  15. Potential CPL logo concepts

    Whatever happened to this idea for Calgary? I think it looks much sharper and cleaner, personally.
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