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3 hours ago, SpecialK said:

I don't know much about USA players, but for Canada after that lost to El  Salvador I'm questioning that. We all know who are Canada's top guys are and that's not changing any time soon. But guys that are one the fence between starting and sub, that group of players I'm questioning. There are guys out in Europe and South America that haven't been call or they haven't been given a fair shot, so we don't know where they stand. 

Yes it's one game but I think it's a  Conversation that needs to be had and things need to be questioned. Does Canada's men's national team  rely on North American leagues too much? .  Are we ignoring our European talent?  Should we give  others who haven't been called them and chance ? Is Canada picking the right North American players? Are the Canadian North American club players overrated and others are under? . Why are USL guys starting for the national team ? 

I don't know the answer but I'm putting the questions

 

Not saying that players in Europe should be getting called to friendlies and being included in tournament squads but if they're playing in a "professional" league in Europe of relevance, they should be given a call to a camp. Maybe they are being given calls to the camps and not showing well I have no idea. 

 

*By European league of relevance I mean like playing in the 1st division in Andorra doesn't really cut it.

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1 hour ago, Blackdude said:

The best player in the world in 2006 who wasn't called was actually 22 (Eric Staal) . Crosby was okay, but not as good as Staal at the time.

Can't say I agree that staal was ever best but no doubt he was a major omission.  They tried so hard to keep around guys from 02 and 04 instead of bringing in new blood. 

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3 minutes ago, Keegan said:

Can't say I agree that staal was ever best but no doubt he was a major omission.  They tried so hard to keep around guys from 02 and 04 instead of bringing in new blood. 

Maybe not, but Staal was a much bigger omission than Crosby. He was the leading scorer of the NHL at the time. 

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22 hours ago, Gian-Luca said:

Apologies as I hate to do this but I hate seeing "of" used when it should clearly be "have" even more. To answer your question - after getting the shaft so many times through the 90's and the 2000's, I probably would happily take advancement for Canada on a "goal" like that, but I would still be mortally embarrassed by it, and the reputation jokes among the general sports fans would be annoying (ie. Canada can only get in when they start being awarded "phantom goals", etc.)

Ah yes thanks teacher.... I didn't realize I made that mistake.

Anyways that answer you as well that might happen, but who would know since Canada isn't in that situation. Will see what happens with Panama from now until WC 2018 or even few months after. Will depend on how they do in the tournament as well.

 

Will be interesting to see what steps the CSA does take from here until 2022 WCQ starts up....

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Well they played Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan in June of 2016. And Mauritana a year ago with is around 75-110 so i think that's canada's level tbh, any National Team that are ranked lower than 125, 150, 175, 200, dead last etc

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On 2017-10-11 at 3:57 AM, Grizzly said:

The video review may stop clearly wrong decisions such as this but for the most part I have been really disappointed by its use in MLS. Instead of improving the reffing in close to 50% of the cases I have watched the ref actually makes a worse decision than the original one on the field. I guess when you have incompetent refs on the field having the same incompetent ref make the decision on a video recall does not really improve things. One wonders if the situation would be any different with CONCACAF refs.

Agreed. The calls have been no better with review, they just add a bit of delay and make it more maddening when you don't get shown a replay of a call or non-call that you think was wrong.

I didn't like the idea of video review before they brought it in (it's much more satisfying to cheer for a goal, rather than the official confirmation of a goal minutes later) and it has managed to be worse than I thought it would be.

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6 minutes ago, Kent said:

Agreed. The calls have been no better with review, they just add a bit of delay and make it more maddening when you don't get shown a replay of a call or non-call that you think was wrong.

I didn't like the idea of video review before they brought it in (it's much more satisfying to cheer for a goal, rather than the official confirmation of a goal minutes later) and it has managed to be worse than I thought it would be.

I am not against video review in principle if it is done correctly. The problem is we get the same terrible ref making the video review decision. In the amazing but true category, Toledo, makes even worse decisions from video than he does live on the pitch. If they are going to have worse decisions based on the video then better to just keep it like before. If they did it more like the NHL, impartial judges who can look at the video right away instead of the ref spending time to leave and re-enter the field it could work. I think the NHL does a pretty good job of getting the calls right, MLS video review has been every bit as bad as MLS reffing in general so far.

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2 hours ago, Grizzly said:

I am not against video review in principle if it is done correctly. The problem is we get the same terrible ref making the video review decision. In the amazing but true category, Toledo, makes even worse decisions from video than he does live on the pitch. If they are going to have worse decisions based on the video then better to just keep it like before. If they did it more like the NHL, impartial judges who can look at the video right away instead of the ref spending time to leave and re-enter the field it could work. I think the NHL does a pretty good job of getting the calls right, MLS video review has been every bit as bad as MLS reffing in general so far.

It could be that the way it is now is a half step in that direction in order to not upset the purists as much by leaving the decision up to the ref for now.

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22 hours ago, matty said:

So going back to Zambrano's "litmus test" comment, what do you guys think his and the CSA's "competitive standard" is? Like what do you think the ranking cut off is?

I have no clue, but my thoughts are that CSA should get all their teams to play more games and against anyone. Get more players into programs and create a system that will be Canadian. I really want Canada to just play and ranking should not matter honestly get any team willing to play Canada. For youth teams more tournaments and create a Canadian tournament that invites other international youth teams. With CPL coming and hoping with academies quickly create tournaments for international clubs to bring in their players to play. Heck have ConCaCaf club academies tournament just our region and if bigger go NA/SA tournament held in Canada.... Shoot ConCaCaf prez is from Canada bring it to Canada... More games that's it.

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1 hour ago, Thomas said:

Think of this for a moment and dream: Canada did qualify for the World Cup 2018 in Russia, who would you bring? If you were OZ what would your 23-man roster look like 

Well it all depends on who performed well in qualifying. Has Larin still been shitting the bed? Has Davies continued to be the anti-Larin? Etc

Edited by canta15

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4 hours ago, Mike Thompson said:

Canada Soccer are full of incompetent people, that's the truth 

Some what true, but its seems the CSA have been making good moves recently... Except having two games during FIFA dates that's just annoying not to have two games each chance they get. Yes they can get teams to play just call play a two game series or get a second team. Just get more games in each year. Anyways yes, they've made some horrendous decisions in the past and hopefully things are actually going to change for the better. Maybe CSA get the pay to play out the window and with CPL coming each team will have free academies to hopefully bring out unearth gems that would love to play for Canada. Forget the name of the new Prez for CSA, but has he made any statements about his plans for CSA and overall soccer in Canada?

Edited by Scorpion26

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